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WELL ,I belong to the country of INDIA where MUSLIMS ARE KILLING HINDUS so that they can turn India into an ISLAMIC COUNTRY .So if any of you Questers can predict the future of Hinduism in India(whether it will perish or not?) I will be very grateful.We hindus are seeing this as a serious threat (We don't want another pakistan to be created) MAY GOD BLESS YOU.
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That's a shame because, having been born there, all the people I've known there have been kind, caring and open-minded. I guess you prefer the hatred and fighting :) Here's my confident prediction for you and your country... Those who carry hatred in their hearts will experience reflections of that hatred throughout their lives...and it doesn't matter what man-made borders they live within "I guess you prefer the hatred and fighting :)" Respectfully, OUCH! I have several Pakistani friends, and I agree with your assessment. Beautiful and caring people. One man, one of my tenants for 15 years in a convenience store, is called "Pak Man." Many of his customers know him by that name and as best I know, he is loved by all. Up vote for your last paragraph. Spot on!
(27 Apr '13, 09:02)
Dollar Bill
Spent a lovely evening with a lady from Pakistan last night....Cant say im that disappointed that the country(India) has split and a new state created. Its happened throughout history,its happening now and will continue to. To me its irrelevant, theres no nationality in pure consciousness, no borders and actually no religion. Good answer Stingray.
(27 Apr '13, 10:40)
Monty Riviera
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An old man was sitting on his porch when a car stopped on the highway. The driver said, "I am thinking about moving. What are the people like in your town?" The old man replied, "What are they like where you came from?" The driver replied, "They are some of the most evil, awful, hateful people I have ever met!" The old man replied, "I guess you better drive on, they are like that here." Another car stopped. Another driver asked the same question. The old man again asked, "What are they like where you came from?" This driver replied, "They are some of the most beautiful, caring people I have ever known." The old man replied, "They are just like that here! Welcome to our town!" @dipen - What you see, what you EXPECT to see is what you get. Your perception of the world is what manifests in your life. You can only affect your own world. Your own world! Spend a little more time in Our Town and you will see what I mean. @Dollar Bill - i appreciate the diplomatic way you've handled such a delicate question
(27 Apr '13, 10:41)
ru bis
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EDIT 4/28/2012 I'm going to use this post to put down in writing some thoughts I've been having on this subject for a while now.
This is a statement based primarily on fear, and one that anyone from any country could make, by taking single or sporadic incidents and giving them immense focus and attention...and then exaggerating them into "Universal" conditions. I, for instance, being American, could make fear-based statements such as the following: Muslims attacked the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and the Boston Marathon, therefore... Islamic terrorists are infiltrating and destroying America! or... Some criminals on the news who happened to be African American robbed and shot up a local convenience store, therefore... Black people are destroying American society! or... I overheard some teenager yakking on the subway who didn't know the difference between a mammal and a reptile, therefore... The education in this country is going to hell! My personal observation is that there has been a spike in this behavior (amplifying unique incidents and treating them as universal conditions) over the last twenty years, particularly in America...probably because (IMHO) of the proliferation of violence and sensationalism in the news media. Sometime about 10 or 20 years ago, an adage became popular within mainstream journalism: "If it bleeds, it leads." Meaning the most violent and gruesome material gets the top billing...the leading slot. In other words, the material most calculated to induce fear and reaction in the viewer gets the most air time. For this reason, several years ago, I stopped watching television news altogether. I've noticed an increased irritability and fearfulness in those friends and family members I know who still watch hours of mainstream news daily. They seem to be the people most likely to strike up fearful conversations about the decline of the country, humanity, and the world. When I hear this sort of stuff, I just do my best to point out the things I've written above. There are plenty of wonderful people in the world, and plenty of wonderful things going on. And its all quite obvious as soon as you disconnect yourself from the mainstream media calling itself "news" and start observing and enjoying the immediate world around you. You know, I go on long walks in the park several times a week. I have yet to see an Islamic terrorist trying to destroy America, or a black criminal robbing somebody, or someone saying something stupid (well, okay, maybe that last one). The point is, you really have to search hard and seek this stuff out, really focus on it, to make it part of your world. As to the question:
Yes, we can predict this. And we don't need astrology to do it for us. I'll quote a wiser head than mine:
Regarding all those nefarious evildoers....
― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago, 1918-1956 Thanks, @releaser99!
(27 Apr '13, 21:03)
lozenge123
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Yes I agree, I believe it is with individual people. Religions have all kinds of people, so unfortunately there can be influential people poorly guided. People that believe it is their calling to kill off others in disagreement. It matters not the religion it is the individuals, what they have within their hearts.
(28 Apr '13, 02:29)
Wade Casaldi
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Ah yes, great answer. Reminds me of this famous parable: An old Cherokee chief was teaching his grandson about life... "A fight is going on inside me," he said to the boy. "It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves. "One is evil - he is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, self-doubt, and ego.
(28 Apr '13, 06:30)
cassiopeia
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"The other is good - he is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith. "This same fight is going on inside you - and inside every other person, too." The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather, "Which wolf will win?" The old chief simply replied, "The one you feed."
(28 Apr '13, 06:30)
cassiopeia
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Good thoughts! If I hadn't already voted you up; I'd vote you up again @lozenge123.
(29 Apr '13, 00:32)
ele
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LOL loved the parking lot park picture. There really are people that would complain like that guy to his wife! LOL!
(29 Apr '13, 03:05)
Wade Casaldi
@Cassiopeia, @ele - Thanks! @Wade Casaldi - Oh, yes...and I have known some of those people. :)
(30 Apr '13, 15:05)
lozenge123
The difference being that there are, in fact, muslims plotting to destroy "America" as well as India and Europe. This is because any non-sufi (inner, mystical) interpretation of Islam involves establishing political supremacy; because Islam is a totalitarian political doctrine, like communism. I don't particularly like hinduism but I understand the fear hindus must feel regarding Islam.
(02 Oct '13, 18:43)
flowsurfer
"This is because any non-sufi (inner, mystical) interpretation of Islam involves establishing political supremacy..." There are actually plenty of others besides the Sufis who do not belong to the paradigm you mention...the Druze, for instance, who petitioned to actively serve in the Israeli army. Or the Kurds, who now politically dominate Northern Iraq, and are immensely friendly (both personally and politically) towards Americans and Europeans. You don't tend to hear too much about them...
(03 Oct '13, 20:07)
lozenge123
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...in the mainstream media, though, probably because (just my speculation) the squeaky wheels get the grease. :) "The difference being that there are, in fact, muslims plotting to destroy "America" as well as India and Europe. " Yes, and there are other people of various nations and cultures trying to destroy America, India, and Europe as well. There are even (gasp) Americans plotting to destroy America. But so what?
(03 Oct '13, 20:16)
lozenge123
All -conventional- types of Islam are political doctrines by nature. I am not sure about hinduism because while it is clear that it is used to sustain a horribly oppressive political system, I don't know how deep the religious roots of that are (if the religion generates the oppression or is simply used to justify it). Unlike christianity which is a mystical doctrine by nature, Mohammad was (according to muslims) an emperor who killed, enslaved, pillaged and established strict laws.
(03 Oct '13, 21:27)
flowsurfer
So Islam is equivalent to communism. Some muslims are sunni, others are shia, some have their own peculiarities, just like in any political doctrine. Some communists are stalinists, some are trotskiates, some belive homosexualism should be illegal and some parade in gay rights rallies; some communists are prety nice people too but the point is that at the fundamental level, communism is a political doctrine seeking political supremacy. Sharia is a horribly oppressive system of law.
(03 Oct '13, 21:31)
flowsurfer
Those who value freedom cannot be friendly with Islam, Communism, etc. There are people who regard themselves as communists who are good; but it is the non-communist aspect of their nature which is good. The same thing for muslims. There were/are even nice nazis. On a spiritual level, I accept the supremacy of God and therefore forgive all, and I can also see mystical teachings in Islam that are valuable. On a wordly level, I regard Islam and all who defend it as politically my enemies.
(03 Oct '13, 21:57)
flowsurfer
"All -conventional- types of Islam are political doctrines by nature...So Islam is equivalent to communism." If you really do the digging and look for it, you can find evidence in pretty much any religion to make such a sweeping negative statement. For instance... "Both your male and female slaves, whom you shall have, shall be of the nations that are round about you; of them shall you buy male and female slaves." - Leviticus 25:44 This quote can be found in every Christian bible...
(03 Oct '13, 22:18)
lozenge123
...and Christians used it (among many reasons) to justify 1,865 years of slavery. That's a pretty long track record of slavery, which we've only relatively recently moved beyond. So should we flush Christianity down the toilet?
(03 Oct '13, 22:20)
lozenge123
My answer is no, of course. I just think generalizing always leads towards confused, incoherent actions towards others that make no sense. Nice people get oppressed/killed, and the mean ones get a free pass. It's so much "better" to just "judge" (forgive the term) people as individuals.
(03 Oct '13, 22:23)
lozenge123
The political interpretation of christianity/judaism should and mostly has been flushed down the toilet. If the Old Testament is historically true, this has been accomplished by the conquest and subjugation of the jewish people by foreign invaders, from which christianity was born. This is not the case with Islam because Islam was created as a religion of conquest and a guidebook for government. People are not stoned in Israel. They are stoned in Pakistan.
(03 Oct '13, 22:32)
flowsurfer
I judge the individual aspects of a person individually; when a person says he is a jew, that has one meaning. Often that simply means his ancestors identified themselves as jews. When one person says he is a muslim, that has another meaning. It means he is loyal to the islamic worldview. This loyalty may be out of ignorance but it is real and only by confronting this person can clarification come. It is difficult because of how apostasy is punished but it must be done.
(03 Oct '13, 22:37)
flowsurfer
"People are not stoned in Israel. They are stoned in Pakistan." This is still being highly selective. Now I'll take a turn: Massive school shootings do not happen in Turkey. They happen in America. We can cite other bad things that happen in Israel, or bad things perpetrated by Christians in places like Beirut, Northern Ireland, Serbia, or a multitude of other places, to prove the opposite point.
(04 Oct '13, 13:04)
lozenge123
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It's all a choice. What labels we choose to apply to people to define them as "friends," "enemies," "dummies," "savages," "traitors," or whatever, are all simply a choice...and the Law of Attraction (aided by human nature and diversity) will always give us the opportunity to justify the choices that we decide to make.
(04 Oct '13, 13:05)
lozenge123
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When my home at the time, Manhattan, was attacked on 9/11, I could have joined the military and gone to the Middle East to "kill Muslims." But I chose not to apply labels, and simply view the victims and perpetrators as human beings. No Muslim has tried to kill or hurt me since...quite the contrary. I became friends with a Druze who ended up greatly helping my career and serving as a mentor in my profession. It really is all just a choice.
(04 Oct '13, 13:05)
lozenge123
@lozenge123 My understanding, and I speak without knowing much on this, is that the Druze are a very minor islamic sect. They are also a mystical sect. They are not muslims in the conventional sense, they are like christian gnostics. Mystical muslims are perfectly fine for me; but they are not the ones being addressed by the original question as they are not the ones engaged in Jihad in India. Taliban muslims are the ones indians have to deal with.
(04 Oct '13, 18:29)
flowsurfer
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Seems to me, dipen, this is more of a question about "how can we construct a world of peace?" rather than predicting a predestined future. Surely if we continue to live blindly in a world of duality without regard to the consequences, then we are condemning ourselves to continue as before, that is, fighting and squabbling. So how do we construct a world of peace? The first step is to fully understand that the world of duality functions at all levels, from the tiniest particle of matter to the mega size of galaxies, in all domains of our lives, in each individual, in each group, in each nation ... the whole physical world in which we participate and interact is governed by duality and polarization and we have the capacity to take control. "By developing clear purpose and intentions and committing to live these to the best of our ability, we can move beyond external pressures and disempowering old behaviors to develop, healthier more enjoyable ways of living with each other. By taking action when those in authority are clearly leading us into unnecessary wars or otherwise polarizing us, we can play a new role in creating a new paradigm beyond polarization which is actually a lot more fun and meaningful than the old ways. Humanity is now on the brink of an important paradigm shift. We are gradually shifting from old dualistic ways of thinking to a new paradigm which transcends the differences between light and darkness, between good and evil, between us and them. This new paradigm pierces the veil of judgement to see the common humanity that lies deep within each of us." hers's the ref. link http://www.wanttoknow.info/008/081007_beyond_duality_polarization ff The line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. ~ Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn It seems many of us here have read Solzhenitsyn. Love the dove, really nice answer & great link... Thanks...
(28 Apr '13, 03:35)
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I know of Hindus doing the same to Christians. Any killing for differences is wrong. This is a quandary though. If India acts as the Tibetans did with China, (no reaction) then they will be practically giving it to the Islamist. However if they rebel then you have a terrible war. The only option is law. It is illegal to kill anyone for any reason! Those that kill should be hunted down, captured, and locked away. They are a menace to humanity and lose their right to live amoung it. By turning to fortune tellers we are saying we have no faith, we have no influence, we have no athority. All of these suppositions are false. We need to keep faith, know that we have influence and authority. Now as I said there is legal ways, government ways, and the news! Plus we have prayer, which should not be overlooked. Don't turn to fortune telling to tell you how this will end. Impact how this will end, is your faith or fear stronger? Even one can affect many, one can change the outcome. I'll pray for India, peace and the Hindu religion. No one should be forced into any religion. Christianity converts people but only by their free will. God wants a personal relationship with his children only by their wish to know him personaly, not forced. Peace be blessed, in Jesus name Amen. It's a shame someone voted both you & Zee down. I voted you both up.
(28 Apr '13, 03:55)
ele
@ele Thanks yes my message was more to show it is not so much the religion as the people. The majority of people in any religion are good. It is the radical ones that hurt others in the name of their religion. I pray for peace, understanding and compassion.
(28 Apr '13, 05:00)
Wade Casaldi
The other thing even more important is to claim and make our future, not to let others tell you how it will be. We can be the catalyst to big change. One person can make a difference. Gandi was one man and he made a difference.
(28 Apr '13, 06:49)
Wade Casaldi
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@ele - I think that "someone" voted us all down. Makes you wonder why someone would ask a question if they don't want to hear an answer :) http://www.inwardquest.com/users/4317/dipen/reputation/
(28 Apr '13, 08:09)
Stingray
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I think people do this sort of thing when they get answers they don't think they want to hear. I'm sure if we posted an answer more in the spirit of the following clip, it would have gotten an up-vote. :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CP9dg38cAI
(28 Apr '13, 11:34)
lozenge123
@Stingray lol yes our site is after all called Inward Quest, now to find information on astrology and fortune tellers you would need to go to a web site called Outward Quest. We over and over say we affect, we create, there is no way to be told what will happen by anyone other than the one deciding what to create. I believe it is much better to be told we create. Rather then be told "Brace yourself this is what is going to happen and you can do nothing about it, it's written in the stars."
(28 Apr '13, 20:11)
Wade Casaldi
I have to face it, it is an easy way out. It takes no action, gives no responsibility and keeps you from feeling guilt over doing nothing but wanting something done. Don't let someone else tell you what your future holds you decide and make it.
(28 Apr '13, 20:23)
Wade Casaldi
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@dipen-This is a lovely community.everybody here respect each other and their relgion.I am a Pakistani muslim.i can write alot on this issue and your untrue propaganda.but i dont want to use this beautiful site for this purpose. India is a hindu state and all minorites are victoms of hindu narrow mind set. I think your propaganda is based on hindu chanskya way of politice which teaches that spread the lie as much as people take this as truth. Think about kashmiries as well.your country has many faces as well as you. your brutality with muslims and other minority is the reason that pakistan was made.Now many other pakistan will come out from inda soon.this is destined. (I am sorry for all other respectable members of this site) |
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Yes I am an astrologer. I practice many types of astrology: one of them is horary astrology, which takes the time I read your question and I can draw up a chart for it if you are interested. I am sorry your peaceful country is being devastated. @jodie Click on the name of the user who was suspended. It will take you to his profile & you will see he asked to have his account suspended because he didn't want to participate any longer. No one is watching you.
(06 Oct '13, 08:25)
ele
why do people ask to have their accounts suspended?
(06 Oct '13, 09:13)
jodie
@Jodie I've only seen 3 members suspended for breaking forum rules & ONLY after first, receiving a warning, which they did not heed. I've seen more than a handful of accts suspended because the user opened up a 2nd acct. IQ allows only one acct per user & if the same user opens a new acct, their first acct is suspended. As for reasons why members ask to have their accts closed. That's a very good question because if a member no longer wishes to participate, they don't have to close their (A)
(06 Oct '13, 21:37)
ele
(B) acct. I think the reasons vary. Some because the user forgets their old passwords to both their IQ & email accts. Time passes between visits; sometimes years. Some are very open & they ask that their acct be suspended so they can open up a new acct with a new name & if you click on their profile, it will say just that. I recall one user closing her acct because she was more comfortable using her real name. Then some request their accts be closed so they can open up a new one with a new
(06 Oct '13, 21:42)
ele
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(C) user name & perhaps an entirely new persona. For some, it's a good idea to start fresh, leaving old answers & comments in the past. As for others, perhaps a new name represents change - a new vibe, or perhaps they feel their work has been done. Personally, I think most members who close accts are either still 'here' observing quietly or participating under a new user name. New beginnings can be a very good thing..
(06 Oct '13, 21:46)
ele
(D) Here's a link where this is discussed. http://meta.inwardquest.com/questions/260/can-i-change-my-user-name-on-inward-quest
(06 Oct '13, 21:48)
ele
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I say this with all honesty; #### ALL ASTROLOGISTS & SCIENTISTS TO NAME A COUPLE !!!! every since God has given us life , there are those who STRIVE dailey to take Gods credit/PROPS/SHINE !! Man NEVER made #### !! on his own !! we WERE given a planet before we even knew what IT {planet} was, oh and the whole intellect card {A BRAIN} !!! I LAUGH SO ###### HARD!!! guess what , we were given that too. KEEP ACTING LIKE WE DON'T NEED GOD ; AND WELL BE WERE THOSE WHO CAME BEFORE US THAT HATED GOD ENDED UP; AWAY FROM HIM. Stop ########## with yo life. If you dont have a penny in your pocket you will STILL GO TO HEAVEN ,ONLY BECAUSE YOU BELIEVED IN JESUS.. Please explain here why you downvoted: Because this answers the biggest pile of ######## ive ever head.
(02 Oct '13, 18:22)
Monty Riviera
lol @ursixx - hey, I only look up - what can I say. (thanks for trying to save me)
(06 Oct '13, 21:50)
ele
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