Actually, David Icke is crazy like a fox. He's managed to create an entirely illusory world, and make a decent living out of it. Much like J.K. Rowling. The difference is that Rowling never claimed that her stories actually happened.

What do you mean they never happened??? Let me guess, next you're going to say Santa Clause is not real!!!!

Maybe David's been infiltrated and is playing the deep, long game for gullible minds. Or could he be tapping into a parallel reality - in which case the reality he believes in could be as real as ours. I don't allow for the possibility that other dimensional reptilians are controlling my reality - I'm in charge 100%. He does seem to be very spiritually aware tho, so the dury's still out :-)

Hi Vesuvius: Since the main question is not about David Ike I didn't want to put this link here, but then again, someone else might. So check this out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVip7cjZgac If you are constantly checking the opposite of everything that you are interested in this should not be a problem. There are two sides to everything. The problem is in insisting that one must be "right" and therefore the other must be "wrong". As a result, you find yourself having to defend what you embraced as "right".

Also click on the following link and the picture of the handshakes for a bigger view explaining the different handshakes. http://www.zimoz.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/0929masonicbig.jpg Judging by your answers, I’m sure you already know this information.

@TheTraveller: If you look at all of the text that I wrote above very closely, you will see that I never actually said that Icke was wrong. You see, I can be careful too.

And I don't have any idea what his being a Freemason (if he indeed actually is one) has to do with anything. I'm willing to give Icke the credit for having enough intelligence to use the handshake, and then let people believe what they want to believe about that. Anyone can use the handshake; it doesn't make them a Freemason.

WOW David Icke. Well ive listened to a bit of his blurb and must say that he does seem a genuinely nice fellow.I knew about the royal family lizard thing but its news to me about the moon being a hollow spaceship.Im not sure which seems more ridiculous. Prince William being a lizard or the spaceship idea.BUT im glad i live in a country and a culture where one can hold and propogate these ideas however stupid they seem to me.And im also glad that i share this country and world with people like David.Theres room on this earth for more than one belief.

PS I would doubt very much that David Icke is a Freemason. The rationale is that most of the people he believes are lizards are well known Freemasons and make no bones about it. If he is a lodge member i would be very surprised. Cant quite imagine him sitting next to Prince Philip when they gather as a lodge!

Whether Icke is completely mad, or whether he is the true prophet of our times is actually a secondary (even minor) issue to me. What I like is that he challenges my own deeply-held beliefs and makes me think...I'll always welcome information that makes me do that because I learn alot about myself from my reaction to it

For me the fact that i like the guy is the main thing.He doesnt challenge any beliefs because mine change nearly every day.In fact i challenge them more than anyone else does. I have listened to him a bit and im glad i did. I didnt learn much but the excercise of doing so did me good.If no one ever pushed the boat out and listened to new and provocative things we would still all be living in caves spiritually speaking.In fact maybe actually living in caves! I think if i were given the choice between an afternoon with David Icke and one with William Tapley i would choose the former.

I posted that link to point out something. We are trained by a system of thought to "take a stand" upon what we believe. When we do this, we are constantly affected by "right" and "wrong". Just as Stingray points out, I actually enjoy most, if not all of David Ike's material. I also open up myself to anything contrary to that which I enjoy just to see how my mind will handle it. I have found that if I don't do that to my own mind, someone else eventually will.

Stingray: I apologize for messing up my first comment about David Ike. The comment was actually meant for you and should have begun as "HI Stingray" I'm not trying to mess up anyone's core beliefs. I'm just pointing out that for everything that you embrace, there is criticism against it and we should have the courage to look at it and not be affected by it. You may all know that there is plenty of Anti "Channeling" information out there. Our refusal to look at it is no different than the mainstream criticism of people like us. So let us be open-minded instead!

But prophecys about POTENTIAL events are surely not prophecys.Or are they.....I know that the rather open ended ones are subject to debate,but the ones im talking about are ones where some prophet has stuck his/her neck out and named a date for a certain event.I get the point about the potentiality of events thou.

Graham: Let's say that I am a farmer with a thousand sheep. These sheep walk on two feet and can read. These sheep stumbled upon an ancient manuscript saying that on a particular day half the sheep population will disappear. Since I am the farmer, "and the owner of the flock", I will make sure that the Truck from the slaughter house shows up on that exact day so that the sheep’s history books are historically accurate or prophetic. The sheep don't know that their manuscript is my diary that I lost a year ago.

The official explanation for what happened on 9/11 is substantiated by ZERO evidence, unless you consider media and the 9/11 commission as evidence. Meanwhile, actual evidence, and eyewitness accounts have been ridiculed and debunked ever since the grand event.

@ Traveller- I really don't think anyone on this site is going to "abuse" or "manipulate" anything. I give everyone here credit enough to surpass the intent of a "grim reaper" - Happy New Year!

Ill be honest here...i see your point Traveller BUT i was speciffically talking in my question about a guy who has SPECIFICALLY told all and sundry that this world is NOW in a world war. Its simply wrong. He got it wrong,he has consistently got it wrong, Obama isnt the anti christ and were not 3 months into a war. Ok perhaps Obama in many peoples eyes IS the anti christ. But were not in WW3. I live near a couple of American air bases...no missiles...honest.Its nice and quiet here. But i DO see your broader point.

I do follow what you are pointing out. It reminds me of the many hundreds of speeches made by Fidel Castro to the citizens of Cuba. If you took him seriously you would think that America was going to invade tomorrow. I guess when we as individuals begin to trust our own intuition; we become less affected by the erroneous advice of others, for we notice that our own intuition, though dependable, is also inconsistent in nature.

Your right about our intuition.I think its often the best guide we have but even it can be wrong at times.I look at these so called prophets and wonder what is the REASON for their mission. I realise as i get older that it often has more to do with their ego than it does to serving mankind and God. I guess if a persons motivation is pure then we would be inclined to forgive them a little...shall we say innacuracy. I often wonder why people feel the need to know the future...personally im very happy to not know too many of the details.

Have you looked at that prediction it is so full of errors he said 1 day is a 1000 years to God, and used that for his prediction but he fails to use it constantly because you easily get into millions and millions of our years if you do. lol

Here is an example the raining 40 days and 40 nights so according to that guys predictions his math I'm using that would mean it rained 80,000 years straight. You see when you start examining and using his formula as a constant not just when it suits his prediction everything falls apart.