What's the difference between Mental Illness and Spiritual Sickness? What causes mental illness, and how does that differ, if at-all from Christ's indications of it? Spiritual sickness is manifested how? And how is that different to Mental Illness? asked 19 Dec '11, 03:34 Parammama Barry Allen ♦♦
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It is my belief that the body is our physical self, the soul is our spiritual self, and the mind is the gateway between the two. That being said, any sickness in one can cause negative manifestations on behalf of the other. The two [one] entities [entity, you] are least powerful when working against one another, moderately powerful when completely independent of one another, and most powerful when working in unison. All illnesses, sicknesses, and diseases can be explained by an imbalance either in your body or spirit. If the body is under attack, the soul may lend energy to the body and aid it in battling or healing. The reverse is also true, and excessive strain on one side or the other will lead to injury. (A quick point: Outside sources can also cause these imbalances in your body or spirit) Individuals with very strong bodies can battle powerful spiritual illnesses despite having weak souls. And conversely, strong souls can help to battle off extremely powerful physical illnesses. answered 19 Dec '11, 08:53 Snow good post gio. the only thing i do not agree on the soul is our spiritual self. spirit is spiritual. soul is mind and heart. and yes i agree that the soul is the link between the 2. def. spirit: Incorporeal consciousness. def.soul: The animating and vital principle in humans, credited with the faculties of thought, action, and emotion and often conceived as an immaterial entity.
(20 Dec '11, 04:24)
white tiger
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Your perception is different because you identify the roles played differently. I see the soul as the spirit, the body as the body, and the mind as a gateway between the two. The reason is this: When your body does, so does your mind. In your next life you begin with very little recollection of your past life, even if you are an extremely powerful or 'old' soul. Some individuals have gotten the rebirthing process so finely tuned that they can begin to re-open their past-life's potentials in only a few years after the start of their new life, others it takes ages, others never do.
(20 Dec '11, 04:29)
Snow
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The body is filled with natural instincts that we cannot control. Survive, be happy, procreate. Simple animalistic instincts, because our body's without a mind or soul are just that: animals. Our mind holds another set of instincts, and our soul as well. Certain instincts overlap, such as "survival", but others do not, such as "procreate". It is my experience that the soul has very little if any 'procreation directives' by itself. I have begun writing theses regarding the inability of 'ancient' creatures to procreate..
(20 Dec '11, 04:33)
Snow
and yes i agree that if you take out the body from the equation. what is left is soul and spirit. but if you see soul has the spirit. it would be the same has seing soul has the body.
(20 Dec '11, 04:34)
white tiger
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It is a common story in mythology that any cross-bread species (such as mythical sirens / harpies, or non-mythical mules) either very RARELY reproduce, have extreme difficulty with the process, or must perform very intricate rituals in order to catalyze the process. An example of the latter would be creatures that are only allowed to reproduce once every X number of years, or creatures that elect specific 'breeders' who are the only ones capable of producing offspring. This is why I cannot include the 'mind' and 'heart' in the perception of the soul, and both will die when your body dies.
(20 Dec '11, 04:37)
Snow
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When I use the monikers 'soul' and 'spirit' I am referring to our non-physical selves, comprised of an energy that most people cannot perceive. When I refer to the 'body', or the 'physical being', it is the carnal equivalent of the soul. The mind I believe is a middle ground, that exists both in the spiritual realm and the physical one, and serves as a communication medium between the two sides of your ONE "self", the two sides being your physical and spiritual selves.
(20 Dec '11, 04:39)
Snow
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So regarding your most recent statement: If you were to "take out the body from the equation", you would be left with only the soul, and your mind would die, because your mind relies on both spiritual power and physical power to survive. The absence of one or the other can be ignored for awhile (an example of this being adrenaline allowing a physical body to survive long after a fatal wound) but eventually the result will be inevitable.
(20 Dec '11, 04:41)
Snow
often also people mix the 2 together to talk about brain and mind. very similar but not quite the same.
(20 Dec '11, 04:41)
white tiger
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It depends on what context you are using, and that is a problem with English as a language, there are many overlapping definitions. I agree it is worth separating the identity of the two, because I identify the 'brain' as only the "thought center" of your body, whereas the "mind" would be a combination of both the brain and the soul's "mind", which I believe is more like a "heart" but that is another story.
(20 Dec '11, 04:43)
Snow
yes the brain could die after 27 day if we agree on what some yogy have done to leave the body here and go by their own will. but the fact is that you still exist and think and have emotion on the other side with out the body.
(20 Dec '11, 04:47)
white tiger
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That is very intriguing. After the destruction of your physical body in this realm? I am aware people can "jump into another realm" and leave their physical body here, and if it is left here long enough then it will wither and die, but I've never heard of anyone retaining any emotions after the loss of their body. The reason for this is because your emotional perceptions, your moralities, may be created from influences on both the spiritual and physical sides, but the 'storage device' for these memories is MOSTLY on the physical side. I suppose an extremely powerful soul would not need a body
(20 Dec '11, 04:57)
Snow
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But the amount of sheer and extreme power you refer to is a very... daunting concept. I've come across some very powerful creatures in my day, some who could do things that I could not even begin to explain, which bothers me to no end of course. But I've never actually heard from someone who was capable of doing what you refer to, but I suppose that would make sense because they probably wouldn't be sitting around in this reality if they didn't have to.
(20 Dec '11, 04:59)
Snow
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This is a tough question! I have seen both dis-eases: I have seen people who are spiritually sick, and people with mental illness. It is hard to place a line exactly where the two cross. I have actually seen people who are infested with demons, who appear to be sick. When the demons are cast out, as according to James 4:7, then the people get well. It is amazing to see. I have also seen people with very serious mental illnesses like schizophrenia, and unfortunately, there are no demons to be cast out in them- their minds are genetically and unfortunately damaged, and I hope and pray that this disease gets eradicated this century...I have seen people with spiritual sickness, people who are depressed because they have lost faith in God and themselves. I guess I am saying that I am not really sure if a line can be drawn, but I also can say that I know spiritual sickness from mental illness, and that they are very different to me. I "sense" which is which, and can act accordingly. I guess you have had to have been in a Mental Hospital and seen for yourself to know which is which. (I have volunteered in them, and it can really be an eye-opener.) I hope this helps the discussion! Peace and Blessings, Jaianniah Christmas 2011 answered 19 Dec '11, 13:43 Jaianniah Regarding your comments directed at schizophrenia: You would be surprised at the people you have come across in your travels who suffer from ailments that could be described with that word. Just food for thought..
(19 Dec '11, 15:03)
Snow
I am speaking of clinical schizophrenia, which has assorted varieties and types- not "split personality" which is NOT schizophrenia at all...I had hoped to avoid this discussion- I have worked with many schizophrenics and know the true nature of it and all of its many faces. I hoped not to offend, and did not mean to suggest the word lightly!>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
(20 Dec '11, 00:27)
Jaianniah
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Don,t mean to pry but I have come across people that had full on symptoms of schizophrenia and all they truly suffered from were food or enviromental intolorances. Some only had amino acid deficiency. Not all of course but some.
(20 Dec '11, 08:40)
Paulina 1
By the way great answer Jai.
(20 Dec '11, 08:40)
Paulina 1
Yes, food allergies can do this...but again, I am just talking about people with "true" schizophrenia, whose symptoms are not alleviated by diet or any other outside source except anti-psychotic meds. And thanks! Happy Christmas to you!>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
(20 Dec '11, 19:56)
Jaianniah
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For me the higher spiritual self is source of a perfect being and by definition is never ill ... illness is caused by disruption between the emotional and the spiritual ... emotional imbalance can be caused by false belief structures ... :) answered 19 Dec '11, 10:33 blubird two Good answer Bluebird.
(20 Dec '11, 08:33)
Paulina 1
or in other words; the mind which tends to be a false God, at times.
(27 Feb '12, 02:01)
ele
both could be part of your destiny a lesson to experience and live, a realization of difference, a frustration from not being one
(28 Feb '12, 21:09)
fred
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well i would say that a mental illness is when there is to much veils or mistake in the mind.and the person is not able to correct those veils or mistake. has for a spiritual illness i would say it is when the spirit is not able or have difficulty to connect with the mind. but it is not the spirit that is at fault it is the mind. so make sure to clean and repair the temple(mind). experience and enjoy. answered 20 Dec '11, 04:15 white tiger Wow White Tiger you mention the word temple as mind. In the bible it says the body is the temple of a living God. Can you just briefly explain the differance.
(20 Dec '11, 08:44)
Paulina 1
John 14:23 Jesus replied, "If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. you can understand it from this verse. has for the mind it is the link between the physical and the spiritual. would 3 people drive the same body at the same time? would 3 people live together in a mind? would a mind be able to connect to other mind through the golden light? so enter through the narrow gate.
(21 Dec '11, 01:58)
white tiger
http://bible.cc/2_corinthians/6-16.htm
(21 Dec '11, 02:00)
white tiger
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Both levels are aberrations. Mental illness is a personal struggle within oneself. When you get fixated on any concept or object, to the point where you cannot manage your life. Unfortunately, that is becoming very common these days. Spiritual Illness is when you are fixated or have caught undesirables in your soul. It is a deeper connection with negativity that attracts like minded negativity universally. answered 21 Dec '11, 00:30 The Knights Alchemy |
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Very good question.