From Illusions, the Adventures of a Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach:
Do you agree or disagree? Why? asked 09 Jan '10, 19:52 Vesuvius
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I Am learning that the answers and questions that are presented here in this forum are really quite profound and honestly, truly wonderful. I would agree that we are Free to choose whatever it is that we desire. We came into this Life knowing that anything is possible and that we have no limitations. I need to acquire a copy of Illusions. answered 10 Jan '10, 04:33 Roy |
We are free to do whatever we want to. There will always be consequences to that action. Whether we choose to hurt another or not is a simple example of that. I think the hardest think is choosing not to do anything and trusting it to be the right choice....... thank you, namaste answered 19 Nov '10, 14:50 daniele |
I would say, “Yes and No!” Yes as long as we keep the peace, do not hurt, or harm anyone, also, as long as we remember to practice to love thy neighbors, as thy self. No because we are wards of the Government, in essence we belong to society, we are not really free. And how do we know this, one example is: if you choose to go out there and commit a crime the Law and Order the Police will take you away, perhaps Hand Cuff you, and put you into Jail, based upon the crime you commit. Our freedom is at risk at all times, someone can kidnap you, and hold you hostage against your free will. So, we are only free for as long as we can keep the peace and choose to stay free to do what we want to do. If we are held hostage against our free will, then we cannot do what we want to do, because we will become a prisoner. Therefore, we may or may have a choice under the circumstances, to be free, and do what we want to do. Hopefully, we can always be free to do what we want to do, when we abide by the Laws of society; we should never forget to pay our Taxes, and we should fight for equal rights for all humanity. Furthermore, we cannot be complacent; we have to be diligent, to secure our rights for freedom to rise against the evil of the World. In essence, we need each other, we need cooperation from each other, we need support from each other, we need to love, and respect each other to stay free, and do what we want to do to make this world a better, and a safer place to live, and be! answered 10 Jan '10, 06:49 Inactive User ♦♦ |
I agree with it. People are as free as they decide to be. There is a catch with that freedom though. Any free action leads to a (temporary) restricting reaction, which we are bound by. There are laws placed around us. But until we are bound due to a restricting reaction from breaking them - they have no power over us. They may only act as deterrents. For example, it is against the law to eat pork or drink alcohol in Saudi Arabia. I lived there for a couple of years - and we would occasionally enjoy black market bacon, or black market whiskey. Or we would brew our own wine. Most expatriates did similar. The laws are there - but we can still choose to go against them. If someone so desired, they can break into your house or kill you (or at least, try). The laws do not stop them having that freedom of choice - though they may later be bound. If one is physically bound - the mind is still free to go where it desires. If the mind is bound (and all of ours are) then the soul is still free to do what it wants. (and perhaps, the soul chose that) I know this is true, because I have experienced out of body experiences that I have later verified...and it cannot be restricted, one part of its nature is freedom. People seem to consider loss of physical freedom as the ultimate. It is not. It is well beaten by restriction of the mind. That is far more powerful, far more restricting, far more insidious - and far more prevalent. We are free to do whatever we want to do - within the constraints we have placed upon us, whether internal or external. Most reading this - are free to do whatever they want - or seek to get to the position where they can do whatever they want. answered 10 Jan '10, 09:24 Liam |
Yes we are free to do whatever we want but with the understanding to every actions there is a reaction, a cause and a effect. So God made you a free will agent to choose to love and serve him or someone else but also each and everyday you make choices about what ever. But you may make them without thinking about the choices you make. Or you have made choices by default. In other words you did not choose but you chose by default. Like for instance do you want to stay here or go home. You make no choice; well if you don't get up and go home than you have choose to stay here. Please in life don't choose by default choose by thinking about your choices and make the best right choicea for you according to all of the facts of information that yo have at that paticular time. Also look at the conquences of what it might do to others as well and your self on down the road to our selves and others we meet along the way. Learn from our mistakes we make along the way. Also ask God and Jesus for forgivness of our sins to him, others and our selves and he will forgive you for he died on the cross for all of man kind and the sins of the children of Adam and Eve. We are to love one another as God wants us too. Care about one another for God loves us and he wants us to help one another. But sometimes people want let you love them for they are dangenrous or evil, or have no caring heart, mind, body or soul at all. Than we give them up to God to handle. answered 11 Jan '10, 07:04 flowingwater |
yes you even made the choice to come here! people should respect your free will as you should respect their free will! it is all in the balence people should help each other: After these things, Jesus went away to the other side of the sea of Galilee, which is also called the Sea of Tiberias. A great multitude followed him, because they saw his signs which he did on those who were sick. Jesus went up into the mountain, and he sat there with his disciples. Now the Passover, the feast of the Jews, was at hand. Jesus therefore lifting up his eyes, and seeing that a great multitude was coming to him, said to Philip, "Where are we to buy bread, that these may eat?" This he said to test him, for he himself knew what he would do. Philip answered him, "Two hundred denarii worth of bread is not sufficient for them, that everyone of them may receive a little." One of his disciples, Andrew, Simon Peter's brother, said to him, "There is a boy here who has five barley loaves and two fish, but what are these among so many?" Jesus said, "Have the people sit down." Now there was much grass in that place. So the men sat down, in number about five thousand. Jesus took the loaves; and having given thanks, he distributed to the disciples, and the disciples to those who were sitting down; likewise also of the fish as much as they desired. When they were filled, he said to his disciples, "Gather up the broken pieces which are left over, that nothing be lost." So they gathered them up, and filled twelve baskets with broken pieces from the five barley loaves, which were left over by those who had eaten. When therefore the people saw the sign which Jesus did, they said, "This is truly the prophet who comes into the world." Jesus therefore, perceiving that they were about to come and take him by force, to make him king, withdrew again to the mountain by himself. answered 27 May '11, 04:35 white tiger |
There is a saying among veterans, (I am not a vet but I know the saying and agree) "Freedom is not free, it is bought and paid for by the blood and life of every solider to fight for our country." We are free within the constructs of what limitations to those freedoms we set before ourselves. For example I am not free to murder and steal but those are not even options I consider so those restrictions to my freedom are not set before me as a hindrance to my freedom. The mystery school saying "Do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the law." is a saying that means when we are awakened to the point of not desiring to do the things that are harmful to ourselves or others we need no other laws. Jesus did not need to be told don't steal or kill, he had no desire to, he had no need to be told it is wrong. He knew it is wrong and therefore had no desire to be or do so. So in his case he was truly free to do whatever he wanted to do. Now if I go to Joseph, he was thrown into a well by his brothers, he was "free" to resist which I am sure he did but it did him no good against them. Then he was sold into slavery again he was "free" to resist the Romans but he would have ended up dead. He arose eventually to be the second in charge of Egypt the Pharaoh's right hand man. He became that by using his limited freedom choices wisely as God directed him. Again he was "free" to say to God "I will not do this! Look at me a slave! You wont help me! Why should I help you!" in that case he would have lived and died as an unknown slave. answered 27 May '11, 14:11 Wade Casaldi |
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