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Dear all, The recent discussion about teleportation, plus the thread about super Jedi-like powers, has got me thinking and reading lately about the possibility of, and accounts of, what the common person would refer to as miracles or supernatural / supranormal powers. Of course most of us have read accounts of these things, such as the miracles that Jesus and Moses performed in the Bible, as well as in the texts of other religions, and mythologies.
Up through the twentieth century, we have similar accounts in books such as Paramahansa Yogananda's Autobiography of a Yogi, and many others. Thomas Troward, a former British Judge in the Punjab, once witnessed a man walking through a wall. I could list many more supposed incidents. Other than LOA manifestation, or typical fortune-telling / telepathic powers, I'm wondering if anyone out there has firsthand experience with such "miracles" or powers, or knows of someone who does? Although I have experienced things which have convinced me of the existence of the spiritual / supernatural aspect of reality, I have not yet witnessed something firsthand that I would classify as a "miracle" or as an actual demonstration of supranormal powers. However, I personally know one person who has, and another who knows someone who had. Both of these friends have immense integrity, and I trust them implicitly. One of my friends witnessed a levitation many years ago. The man who accomplished the levitation was a high-ranking member of a spiritual order from the East (not India, in case anyone is wondering). He saw the old man rise off the floor into the air, and float across the room. The other friend told me an account related to him by his martial arts instructor, who had visited a monastery in China. While trespassing through a restricted area of the monastery, he passed by an open door and saw several monks seated around a table, where objects were moving of their own accord, or apparently directed by the power of the monks' minds. When they noticed the presence of my friend's friend, they immediately stopped and ordered him away, then shut the door. Anyway, those are my two stories. Does anyone else out there have any to share? Thanks!
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I will share two experiences that were very similar in nature. One was my own experience (that I have shared here before), and the other was the experience of my friend's wife. Incidentally, I heard about my friend's wife's experience long after my own experience and because of its familiarity, I had no problem believing her story. My friend's wife had just arrived in America at a particular airport on a visitor's visa & she had only a name & phone # of a family friend that she was supposed to make contact with after she arrived. She came in on the last flight into that airport and when she made contact over the phone, she discovered that the family friend was living 6hours away from the airport and she would have to spend the night by herself inside the airport until the family friend reached her next morning (by driving all through the night). To her relief, as she was about to find a safe place to huddle for the night, she recognized one of the passengers from the plane who identified himself as a fellow traveller and said that he was also in the same predicament and had to spend the night in the airport until his connecting flight the next morning. He turned out to be a kind and comforting person who was eager to listen to her life experience and she found that the entire night passed by in what seemed like a few hours. Finally, morning arrived and the family friend showed up and recognized her & she ran over to greet the family member and introduce this person to her newfound friend. When she turned back to point-out the passenger who had become a friend she found that the bench was empty and that the person had disappeared! She asked the family friend if they had observed where the person went when her back was turned and the family friend who had seen her on the bench from far away insisted that she was the only person seated on the bench. The person who had kept her company and speaking with her all through the night had completely disappeared! She remembers praying to Jesus to give her the strength and courage to spend the night at the airport by herself and it was at that moment that she was relieved to see the fellow passenger whom she already recognized from the plane show up with the same predicament & offering to keep her company until the next morning. She had converted from Buddhism to Christianity and had re-discovered her inner confidence through accepting Jesus Christ as her personal saviour. My friend and his wife experienced many miracles but this is the one I enjoyed listening to because of my own experience with a similar situation. I was severely suicidal in my late teens and eventually found myself on the subway platform waiting for the train to arrive so that I could leap in front of it and end my life. As I was Standing there trying to muster up the courage to end my life a gentleman in a fine suite walked up to me (past me) and said to me "Son don't do it, you have far too much to offer to this world, Please don't do this" As simple as they were, these were the exact words I needed to hear at that moment. I knew deep inside that I had much to offer but I never believed that I would ever be capable of achieving it because I saw myself as a complete failure. These words were so powerful to me that they sent a shock through my entire being and I was momentarily distracted into silence with eyes closed. When I opened my eyes to ask this gentleman who he is and what made him say those words, I found that he was not there. I ran down the platform looking for this person and since there were very few people, I knew that this gentleman must have walked up the stairs to the main floor. I went up to the main floor & inquired at the only ticked booth (that everyone entering or leaving must pass by) if they had seen in which direction the gentleman who came up the stairs went. They were perplexed & insisted that nobody came up the stairs except me. I walked out in a state of confusion & something guided me from the subway to a bookstore close by & I walked straight to the back of the bookstore and robotically reached to the second shelf from the top row and took out the third or fourth book from the right edge of the shelf. The book was titled SETH SPEAKS and upon looking at the front cover, I didn't want to have anything to do with it (because the picture was of Jane in a trance and it looked evil and demonic) I tried everything in my power to put it down, including reaching for an old Playboy & a Hustler magazine to trick my mind towards a different excitement. I couldn't put it down & so I paid for the book & took it home. I randomly opened a page somewhere in the beginning and read the words "Consciousness creates form. It is not the other way around." and also these words; "Each of you create your own physical reality; and en masse, you create both the glories and the terrors that exist within your earthly experience. Until you realize that you are the creators, you will refuse to accept this responsibility." In that moment, my entire perspective towards life changed forever and I started the adventure of discovering if these beautiful words were really true, because my decision to live or die depended on knowing if I was hopelessly at the mercy of my circumstances or if I possessed the power to change them. It has been many years since that moment and I am still here, and yes, those words and that miracle have given me so much confidence in the power of the spirit. Wow, thanks for sharing that. I am glad you didn't jump.
(11 Aug '12, 06:43)
Fairy Princess
@The Traveller - These stories send shivers up your spine :)
(11 Aug '12, 09:21)
Stingray
@The Traveller This is the story of angels. I have a book collection on angels from Readers Digest and there are many stories just like yours in them. One where a women ran out of gas on a deserted road. She was scared and started praying then a car pulled up behind her and man got out and said to her, "don't worry it looks like you need some gas, I have some here." He filled her tank from a gas can. When she went to thank him and he was gone, no man, no car, totally gone! She had gas to leave.
(11 Aug '12, 11:07)
Wade Casaldi
@The Traveller - Wow, thanks for sharing!
(11 Aug '12, 12:26)
lozenge123
This "folks disappearing into thin air" is intiriguing me. Nice mini-biography of you @The Traveller :) Though it contains a Christian context, I think this is relevant to watch of a man who changed his perception of the world after an odd, unexplainable encounter:
(11 Aug '12, 12:46)
Nikulas
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@The Traveller, I am so glad you decided to stay. You do indeed have so much to offer this world, and we need you here. The posts you share here can only be the tip of the iceburg of your contribution to life, and if these were all, they would be enough. I always recognize your writing, and when I see it, I sit back and slow down to savor and enjoy what you have to say, and to fully allow your thoughts to sink into my mind. Thank you for being here. Thank you for sharing your self with us.
(11 Aug '12, 22:29)
Grace
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Thank you - thank you - thank you All. I enjoy sharing these stories when appropriate because I know from experience that such stories from others kept me holding on to the thinnest thread of hope when I was in the very depths of despair. I am far more familiar with misery than joy & thought that my purpose was to help others in misery because of my familiarity to them. However, the spirit within awoke me to the realization that our memories become the seeds of growth of tomorrows choices.
(12 Aug '12, 10:57)
The Traveller
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I now know that all the external stuff including SETH, and everything else here was made possible because of my higher self looking out for me. And I'm sure that is the case with everyone else here as well. These memories I share are no longer a part of my inner attention. I reach for them only for inspiration from a "lucky me" perspective instead of a "poor me" perspective. Because I now know that If I reach for them from a "poor me" perspective I am doomed to repeat them again.
(12 Aug '12, 11:08)
The Traveller
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Finally, I do appreciate all your feedback so thank you again. And Grace, Wow!...When I read your comment, you somehow took me back to that moment that day when I knew that there was a purpose within me, but didn't know if I could hold on till I believed in myself. I read your comment with tears of joy flowing freely upon my face. Thank you for that. I gave you a hug (in spirit) as I read it.
(12 Aug '12, 11:19)
The Traveller
@The Traveller, that makes sense to me, bc that is the moment I wrote from. I would never say anything like that if I didn't mean it from the bottom of my heart - you must have felt that, and you are so welcome.
(12 Aug '12, 15:12)
Grace
What an amazing story. Thanks.
(25 Sep '13, 05:18)
maugi
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I wrote this question which talks about Visions people have had which defy explanation...I wrote the question, and describe my encounter with Mary, Mother of God. I wrote it a while back. Other people contributed, too. Here is my account from that question: When I was 24, I was awakened suddenly. At first, I was unsure what had awakened me. I saw immediately that my bedroom was flooded with an incredible blue light. This light was utterly unworldly and beautiful. I looked around me. Standing next to me was a woman, who was the source of the blue light. She was dressed in white with a blue mantel and was young and possessed of such inner beauty I was struck dumb at first. My husband was asleep beside me. I repeatedly elbowed him to awaken him. The woman giggled! She said, "He will not awaken. You can try, but he will not." And she giggled again! I pinched myself, thinking that I was surely having quite a dream. She said, "Do not do that! I would not have you hurt yourself. I am truly here." "Who are you?" I asked. "Surely," she replied. "Surely, you must know."Oh, but I do not!" I said then. "Are you an angel?" She pondered this, but only for a moment. "You of this world call me Mary," she finally answered. "You mean, Mary...Mother of Jesus?" I asked. There came that lovely laugh again, low and sweet. "Yes, some call me that," she answered finally. In my heart, I immediately thought to myself that this was totally impossible. To this day, I call her "The Blue Lady". Being practical, I responded, "But I am not Catholic!" She said, "What does that have to do with anything? I just came to talk with you." I wondered to myself what Mary could want with me. What could the Mother of God have to say to me, a non-Catholic and someone who did not even go to church on a regular basis? Now, I just sat up a bit, and I remember taking in that blue light, and was filled with a peace which "passeth all understanding" (Phillipians 4:7, KJV Bible) I finally could understand how someone could feel such a peace. I did not have any doubt or fear. This peace wiped my soul clear, and I was utterly filled with such love and wonder for this woman. I could not help loving her- she seemed the essence of love. It was as if she was Love itself. We spoke mind to mind at times, but also, with clear understanding. Time passed strangely- both fast, and slow. I think it must have been at least twenty minutes or so. She directed me to learn the Rosary, and I asked her how I was to obtain a "Rosary". I had heard of them, of course, but had never really seen or held one, except that I knew that my friend Cathy was Catholic and had one when we were growing up. I promised The Blue Lady (Mary) that I would get a Rosary and learn to pray on it. This was not the only thing we talked about, though. She talked with me about how important it was to live a life of Love and Faith in God. This she emphasized. She said that "Faith is everything, absolutely everything, and that out of Love, comes Great Faith, and one needs both Faith and Love together, for they depend on each other. Even though time has gone by since I saw her, I can still remember her like it happened last night. Not a day goes by, nor a night, that I do not long to see her again. After she was gone, I held this experience close to my heart, and to this day, have no doubt that what I experienced was real. I went to my Public Library to learn about the Rosary...I wanted to research it, and to try to puzzle out its significance in the world. I also wondered over and over why this had happened to me at all. I ended up taking a crystal necklace, and breaking it apart, and re-strung it into a Rosary. I was rather surprised to discover that the words of the Rosary were already familiar to me- in Latin! In High School, we had sung "Ave Maria" in chorus. I had sung a solo rendition of the Ave Maria as part of my vocal repertoire for my voice lessons. It struck me that all that time, I never really realized that the Ave Maria was the Rosary! No one had ever explained the Ave Maria to me- I guess all my teachers just assumed I already knew what it meant. (Those were the days! No one back in my High School days had yet decided to keep religious music out of Public Schools. As a matter of fact, in the days of Bach and Beethoven, most music was religious. It is nearly impossible to have a good vocal repertoire without learning religious music. But when my children got to school, by the eighties, most public schools had stripped all religious music out of band, orchestra, and choral music- and I used to cringe at Christmas. The number of renditions of "Frosty the Snowman" and "Jingle Bells" seems infinite now...I was very sad that my children never got the thrill of performing such music as "The Messiah" and "Ode to Joy" from Beethoven's Ninth Symphony.) To this day, I can say the Rosary both in Latin and English. I have used and prayed the Rosary as a centerpiece of my private meditations. The repetition of the "Hail Mary" helps bring me into an Alpha state quite nicely, which is a nice and wonderful side effect of doing the Rosary. My vision changed my whole life. I tried to approach the Catholic Church, to tell them that I saw "The Lady", but all my efforts were brushed aside because I was not Catholic, and because I had been alone when she appeared to me. I was so naive. I know that perhaps I perhaps sound like a "religious nut-nut" even to some of you who read this account. Mary only told me to keep up my Faith, and to never doubt her or myself. She promised me that she would be appearing to many people all over the world, and that I would discover that I was not alone in my vision. Apparently, the Catholic Church is not sure what to do about all of these sightings of Mary; but the Church can no longer ignore all of us who have seen her. Her visit changed me. I gave up drinking, and began pursuing a spiritual way of life. You could even say that She brought me all the way to you at IQ. I am different because of her visitation. I have no doubts about Life after Death. I have no doubts about my Faith in Christ. I started pursuing spiritual healing, and that led me to a friendship with Wade which began in 2004. (You all know where that led!) You might wonder why she is appearing more and more. She told me that the world has gotten to be so filled with hatred and war that she decided to come to bring Proof to the World that God sees and cares and is very, very sad and disturbed at our lack of Faith! I am hoping that by sharing my story with all of my "bestest of friends" here at Inward Quest that it will help you to BELIEVE!!!! All my Love, and with many Blessings, Jaianniah thank you for sharing jai. experience and enjoy.
(11 Aug '12, 09:34)
white tiger
@Jaianniah - What an amazing experience. I am definitely a "believer" in this, and many things. I have heard of, and read, enough apparently authentic accounts to make me believe that "All things are possible to him [or her] that believes." My experience since joining Inward Quest has only reinforced and strengthened that belief. Thanks again for sharing this experience.
(11 Aug '12, 12:31)
lozenge123
@Jaianniah - What a lovely experience that must have been. I always wonder, why that time, that place? Why not every day, everywhere, everyone? What do you think? Can you call such an experience to yourself?
(12 Aug '12, 00:18)
Grace
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When I was in high school, I was a sugar addict and had a mouthful of cavities in spite of fluoride. I had a followup dental appointment a week away when a friend gave me a book by Mary Baker Eddy, the founder of Christian Science. I was reading it one quiet afternoon and felt the right side of my mouth and teeth get comfortably warm. I don't remember how long it lasted, maybe 10 minutes. When I showed up at the dentist's office, I no longer had a cavity. I remember the dentist looking at my x-ray and shaking his head. 3
@purple_iris - Was your avatar picture automatically generated when you joined IQ? If so, that in itself is a pretty impressive "miracle" considering your name starts with the word purple :)
(11 Aug '12, 11:41)
Stingray
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@purple_iris - Mind over matter...awesome! Thank you for posting this.
(11 Aug '12, 12:32)
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Nothing 1st hand but here's some 2nd hand stuff...Western civilization calls it supernatural, Chinese philosophy calls it 'Chi" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYVdhKVb9WE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nu99GRUUN6Y&playnext=1&list=PLBACC3B150F6AE656&feature=results_main you might also like this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDDfvbcSgiI experience and enjoy.
(11 Aug '12, 21:20)
white tiger
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@Eldavo - The first video is highly inspirational and fits in with some experiences I've had myself but nothing at that level of ability :) I'd love to believe the second video too but there's so many fakes along similar lines that you can't help wonder if it is staged.
(12 Aug '12, 05:32)
Stingray
@Stingray- clears throat...So, what experiences have you had? It's not like we're eager to hear or anything :) On the first link, it's been hours later and I'm still thinking about this demeonstration in my head. (Yes! I'm a vibrational match to jedi powers!) The second video I would label staged, yet I have heard of similar things perhaps just not as comically induced as the video suggests.
(12 Aug '12, 06:30)
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@Nikulas - The most dramatic incident (it was unintentional) is one I've mentioned before: http://www.inwardquest.com/questions/55653#55792 . Mostly, I guess I just "zap" people with minor energy surges when shaking their hands etc. It lifts their mood and gives them a little boost and the energy would only go to "waste" anyway. I also tend to do it to my wife alot without her knowing but that's mainly for my own amusement in watching her twitch slightly. She'll slap me if she reads this :)
(12 Aug '12, 07:03)
Stingray
@Stingray- Interesting. Do you do qi gong, or tai chi, or yoga? I know the majority of the answers of yours, which I totally agree with, is consciously releasing resistance, but I'm curious to know... Oh, and in this example which I've questioned and annoyed your already on (sorry), were you just doing that breath charge up exercise you revealed to me? (btw, i'm getting quite long on holding the breaths now)
(12 Aug '12, 07:16)
Nikulas
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@Nikulas - I've been involved in all of those and more. You really are searching for the magic bullet, aren't you? :) There really isn't one I know of. I learned over many years with many different methods. But if you are really desperate I can suggest something to look into. It will cost alot of money, you'll feel constantly scammed, it's doubtful you will see any useful results without a few years of daily practice, and most of it I don't agree with, but the core seems useful.Up to you:)
(12 Aug '12, 08:05)
Stingray
@Nikulas - Regarding that "incident", it was actually the inverse of that breathing method (similar to the answer here: http://www.inwardquest.com/questions/647#687) and the person who was knocked back was quite sensitive to these energies anyway. I'm doubtful that I could reproduce that effect against some random thug attacking me in the street but, then again, I've never really tried and I've never really had that intent :)
(12 Aug '12, 08:09)
Stingray
@Stingray-Bruce Lee was known to be able to ,like yourself, control energy.He used it in his martial arts very effectively. Here he demonstrates the one inch punch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jeg_5bba6-M&feature=youtube_gdata_player
(12 Aug '12, 11:39)
Satori
Yes, that was quite famous at one time, Bruce Lee and the "one inch punch".....rumor had it that Bruce Lee died at the young age he did because he "broke the rules" of using the power for public display and drew blood and caused pain too many times...alot of accidental broken bones and blood occurred during the filming of his many movies.....I even heard he was warned to stop by masters but he got too caught up in the Hollywood thing.
(12 Aug '12, 12:23)
Eldavo
When we were kids, my brother and I use to do the standing position chi as the master does in the 2nd video. I would say to my brother "try to pick me up or move me from where I was standing" he couldn't! Then I told him what I was doing and he tried...I couldn't budge him either. It was all just for fun as kids wrestle around. Then one day we tried with my father...he would wrap his arms around me and with all his might (I'm 11 or 12 yrs old) he couldn't move me, or my brother.....
(12 Aug '12, 12:31)
Eldavo
...he just couldn't understand it, to us it was just a fun game! Then we'd try the "disappearing trick" where I'm in the same room as my brother and he couldn't see me. I started doing Qigong the past few months and these memories of what we were doing when we were kids started coming back to me. As the master says: "This chi stuff is only the surface of the "real adventure beneath" in the meditational technique.
(12 Aug '12, 12:44)
Eldavo
....does anybody have any idea on where to find this "meditational technique?"
(12 Aug '12, 12:45)
Eldavo
@Eldavo-Thanks for that info on Bruce lee. What you are referring to sounds something like this > http://www.inwardquest.com/questions/3399/how-does-party-levitation-work
(12 Aug '12, 13:11)
Satori
Here is a video that will make the 2nd video more understandable and believable.....
(12 Aug '12, 14:24)
Eldavo
@Nikulas - Okay, as you wish: http://quantumqigongsystem.com/ This should not be considered as me giving any kind of endorsement or recommendation. I've been looking through their stuff recently and I believe there is value in the Blood Washing.
(12 Aug '12, 20:45)
Stingray
@Stingray- I just checked the price of these products. Oh. My. God. :( Look's like Nik's gonna have to do some serious vibration moulding before I'll even get into the vicinity of purchasing that :(
(13 Aug '12, 08:15)
Nikulas
@Eldavo, @Nikulas, @Stingray - Thanks for all your comments, this is the sort of stuff I had in mind when I asked the question. Just found this, and am wondering if it is the type of thing my friend's friend was talking about. Wish they had subtitles for this! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6a3ITVWThs&feature=related
(13 Aug '12, 09:33)
lozenge123
By the way, I have a martial arts friend who think "chi" is a load of bull, as well as one who believes in it 100%. Although the first friend is not a vibrational match to this sort of stuff, I wonder about the skeptical girl in the first video who was "shocked" by the master's chi. Is it true that there are some instances when skeptics can be shown this stuff, when they can somehow be a match? Must there have been a small part of that girl that "believed", or was open to this sort of thing?
(13 Aug '12, 09:37)
lozenge123
Following this line of thought about vibrational matches...I am wondering, for instance, about the scenario wherein a QiGong / Chi practitioner (who could "push" things without touching them), was confronted by an attacker who was a "nonbeliever"...would his (or her) powers then fail to work? Or would that practitioner ONLY attract attackers who were themselves believers, and who could be "pushed" without touching? It would certainly be useful to know from a practical perpsective...
(13 Aug '12, 14:16)
lozenge123
@Stingray - If you don't mind me asking, how common or uncommon, would you say, are masters in America with that level of ability (able to "zap" or knock people across the room)? I have personally heard about one teacher in the Northeast who is of that level...I had chocked it up to bull up until recently. I'd like to train with him, but he's not close to me...if you think there are more guys like him around, however, I would search harder. Obviously they don't advertise these abilities, so...
(13 Aug '12, 14:20)
lozenge123
@Stingray - ...in order to track these guys down, I pretty much chase whatever rumors I can dig up. Thanks again.
(13 Aug '12, 14:22)
lozenge123
For the next week or 2 just "desire" to train with Qigong, read about Qigong, watch youtube video's on Qigong, watch vimeo video's on Qigong, watch google video's on Qigong, play around with some Qigong moves, talk to your friends about Qigong, learn wiki topic's on Qigong.......... then Qigong will come to you!! and if you're really ready to learn...and I mean "READY"....a Qigong teacher will show up
(13 Aug '12, 14:36)
Eldavo
@lozenge123 - "how common or uncommon, would you say, are masters in America with that level of ability" - No idea, sorry. I don't live in the US and it's not really where my interests lie. I do suspect, however, that if someone told me they were a "master" of something, I'd probably guess it wasn't in the field of ego-management :)
(14 Aug '12, 06:49)
Stingray
@Eldavo, @Stingray - Thanks very much for these comments, they have given me a lot to think about. I'm actually not sure that Qigong is the path for me...I'm mainly interested in learning from people who are tapped into, or connected with, the sorts of things we've been discussing. I suppose this is one of the few areas of my life (maybe the only one) where I don't mind "beating the pavement" so to speak...I just find the "search" itself so enjoyable. All best to you guys.
(14 Aug '12, 11:57)
lozenge123
i have seen all your last comment. but all of you have miss a very vital point, all of those things are in you(inside),the true master is you but you have to get to know your self. the outside master that can guide you because he has done it him self. yet is powerless to make the job to know your self for you. that is the path that you most take all the rest will be added to you in the proper time. so let there be light, be the light that you can be, experience and enjoy.
(15 Aug '12, 22:37)
white tiger
@Nikulas - Just to update the information I've posted here, and if you're still interested...based on my experiences with their exercises and the "feel" of what they are teaching and how they are teaching it, I think I can stick my neck out and recommend this Chi Energy Training School . Don't go for the accelerated courses though - your body needs time to adapt to the increased Chi flowing through it otherwise you'll "blow your circuits" :)
(20 Apr '13, 01:01)
Stingray
@Stingray- This seems much more affordable for me considering there is an option for monthly payments. I seem to have been able to relax my need to just have the skills immediatly and am more keen to treat the chi exercises as a day to day hobby I can track over the years. Would you mind explaining some unique skills that can be developed? I saw on the website articles upon invisibility and levitation, though I just want to 'spark' people by shaking their hand like you claim to do :)
(20 Apr '13, 05:02)
Nikulas
@Nikulas - "treat the chi exercises as a day to day hobby" - Good attitude. I signed up a couple of months ago and am only doing the monthly program, not the accelerated one (I've learned from past experience that slow and steady leads to much quicker and permanent results than "push and rush" ) so I don't know what their techniques are for the more "advanced" abilities. I know some of these skills from other trainings but they take a long time to master and it wasn't my area of interest.
(20 Apr '13, 06:24)
Stingray
@Nikulas - Giving people little "shocks" is just mainly for my own personal amusement when I'm bored...not sure it's a worthwhile goal in itself :)
(20 Apr '13, 06:26)
Stingray
@Stingray- I totally agree with the "slow and steady wins the race" approach. I really reckon I should start living my life in that way more in that way, if not fully. Thankyou for posting your original link, it was very thoughtful of you. Would you say that learning this application they are teaching of chi be a substaintial replacement for the teachings of Abraham? How could one or the other benefit each other?
(20 Apr '13, 09:29)
Nikulas
@Nikulas - I don't see them as replacements for each other, just different focuses. It's bit like doing a cardio workout as opposed to doing a muscle-building workout. They're both physical workouts - so there is overlap in the subject area of bodily health - but they each have a different focus and it would be a stretch to say they are replacements for each other...I don't see many marathon runners competing in the same athletic events as weight-lifters :)
(21 Apr '13, 05:58)
Stingray
@Stingray- You certainly have great skill with analogies, that sums it up perfectly in my head. Correct me if I'm wrong: The majority of ideas on IQ seem to revolve around the focus of reality creation (Abraham stuff). Are there any main sources here that relate more on the side of building of chi? It seems to me that meditation is the most primary chi "workout" discussed here. Could you point me to anything else? Actually, is meditation relevant for building chi? What of yoga stretches?
(22 Apr '13, 05:38)
Nikulas
@Stingray- Sorry for the bombardment of questions, it's just now you're leading me into a new realm of metaphysical discovery and I am more keen than ever to venture down.
(22 Apr '13, 05:41)
Nikulas
@Nikulas - I don't tend to compartmentalize concepts so for me there is no difference between what the Eastern practitioners call "Chi development", what Western practitioners call "unfolding of the spiritual/psychic centers" and what Abraham calls "Allowing the energy that creates worlds to flow". All the same thing to me. Anything that makes you feel good is going to allow "chi" to flow freely. The "Chi" guys/gals, however, learn to focus that energy more deliberately than most.
(23 Apr '13, 17:09)
Stingray
@Nikulas - As for techniques, it depends on what your end result is. That "energy that creates worlds" has two polarities, an active phase and a passive phase...or you could call it, Yang and Yin. Passive techniques like meditation help with the Yin polarity. Sending an energy pulse into someone to make them jolt is more of the Yang polarity. Depends what you're trying to do. Most people these days are too "Yanged-Out" anyway ("stressed") so the passive techniques would be more beneficial.
(23 Apr '13, 17:13)
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My son is learning to drive. He was driving home last night, and he was approaching a corner where I had experienced a miracle and I was reminded of it. I was approaching this corner kinda fast, as it was just after a passing lane where I had picked up speed, when I saw a roadsign that said Slow just before the corner. So I slowed down, and as I went around the corner, there was a dog running accross the road and a semi coming the other way. Because I had slowed down, the dog got accross the road without the semi or I having a problem. The weird part is that I have never seen that sign again. 2
Wow! What a great experience.
(12 Aug '12, 11:34)
The Traveller
@The Traveller Yes, I told him after I told him to slow down for the turn. LOL I asked him if he ever saw a Slow sign there. He hadn't.
(12 Aug '12, 11:38)
Fairy Princess
I have had this happen to me driving through the country! I was driving along and the Holy Spirit gave me the nudge I am going a little fast. I slowed down and one of two things happened, one time a police car was around a corner tracking speeders. Another time a deer ran across the road up a ahead and I had time to brake and avoid it.
(13 Aug '12, 11:48)
Wade Casaldi
@Wade Casaldi - Funny you should mention this just now; this exact incident (the one with the deer) happened to me on Saturday night as I was driving home, and I was just telling a co-worker about it...
(13 Aug '12, 12:04)
lozenge123
@Wade Casaldi and @lozenge123 yes, I get those nudges often also. But the physical being there and then never being there again is the miracle part.
(13 Aug '12, 12:16)
Fairy Princess
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@Fairy Princess yes I remember one where I had a nudge to drive a different way home. So I did, only to later find out about the time I was driving there was a very bad accident the way I usually drive home! I could have been in that accident, or a part of it in some way, or just stuck in traffic for hours! But anyway I avoided it all together because I listened to God telling me don't go that way.
(13 Aug '12, 12:31)
Wade Casaldi
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@Fairy Princess-Amazing and thanks for sharing, I could read stories like these all day:)
(14 Aug '12, 09:33)
Satori
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My father used to spar 6 to 8 top students simultaneously without being scored on. He said when he sparred them something would happen in his mind that made everything look like it is in slow motion (like when you witness an accident.) This slow motion gave him plenty of time to think what next, where to be and who to block. These were very fast and furious matches, but no one could get a kick, punch or technique in on him, but he could on them all. This happened every time he sparred. The most I've yet sparred are three at a time myself. Edit 4-19-13 I used to talk of my father a lot but I have had many experiences and done amazing things myself. I have bi-located my soul. A friend needed me, we were in different states. I remembered how Jesus bi-located to heal the centurion's daughter. So I said relax I am with you. I envisioned myself there by her side, she immediately felt my presence. I did this many times, for healing, calming and clearing. One time I worked on a friends heart, she was in Arizona and I in Pennsylvania, she actually described what I was doing to her heart. It is like playing pretend as children but coupled with strong belief that it is real. That could be said for many things I have done that most would say the word "imposible" to. Edit because of dipen's interest I will try to recall more things I did. I remember I threw depression off of myself into the floor. I flung my arms and threw it off of me, it was like sticky thick oil all over me. When I flung my arms down all of this flew off of my body into the ground, gone. A friend from online told me she needed me, her house was haunted by something pretty bad. I said "Alright don't worry I'll get rid of it." I imagined being there and clearing the whole house. I cast this out, and to show it not to mess with my friend or myself, I imagined a huge explosion of the Holy Spirit from the center outwards and beyond the house. As I did this she told me she had a maylar birthday baloon (Those silver metal ones) it popped! Then she felt this calm and peace come over the house, the fear was gone! Another time a friend needed me, I said, "Call on me, I'll be there." She called on me and was immediately comforted right when she needed. I just set an intention of being there when needed. I didn't consciously know I was there in spirit, I just set an intention of it. When I remember more I'll post more. there is many things that one can do when he his at peace in him self. that lake needs to be calm(water of the mind), then you will see clearly. experience and enjoy.
(11 Aug '12, 09:17)
white tiger
@white tiger You know, that is true. He was in a relaxed state enjoying the fight. I do my best when I am in that relaxed state but I never pushed it like he did. It is interesting and I believe if I needed to in an emergency it would happen to me too. He just before sparring thought to himself "Survive!" That was his trigger. I don't really have that because I never felt a need to, it is a friendly sparring match to me. Emergency situation you better believe I would think Survive! :-)
(11 Aug '12, 09:59)
Wade Casaldi
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Yes, my dad said that if I was ever attacked, to do what ever it took to survive. This did attract opportunities to protect myself. I just have a knowing that I can survive anything, but I am not interrested in attracting opportunities to prove it any more.
(11 Aug '12, 10:44)
Fairy Princess
@Fairy Princess Yes agreed I don't go looking to prove anything, I am confident plus I really don't like hurting anyone anyway. :-)
(11 Aug '12, 10:46)
Wade Casaldi
@Wade Casaldi, Thanks for sharing. I have heard similar things from my martial arts instructors and others. Sounds like your Dad was "the real deal." There is an excellent book which explicates this sort of thing (ideal state of martial arts consciousness), related by a zen master to a sword master during the 1600s, called "The Unfettered Mind." @white tiger, you may be interested as well. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Unfettered_Mind
(11 Aug '12, 12:25)
lozenge123
http://www.inwardquest.com/questions/13830/has-anyone-experienced-sensen-no-sen it is called sensen-no-sen when the mind is has a calm lake you will see or feel the ripple on the water then you can react before the opponent has even started to move that is why you are faster then the opponent and why the time slow like slow motion. but having that kind of calm lake state make you at peace with your self and with other it is not only about survival. experience and enjoy.
(11 Aug '12, 13:10)
white tiger
@lozenge123 Thank you so much, I downloaded that E-book. My dad used to meditate quite heavily back then every day. He used to do some things that he would just decide to do out of the blue like one time at a demo he blindfolded himself and had two students one on each side throw punches and strikes while he blocked them. A School teacher asked a student what's the trick how did he do that, that student replied there was no trick, he didn't even practice that. That was the first time he saw it!
(11 Aug '12, 13:41)
Wade Casaldi
@white tiger I remember that post yes that was good, and I believe I told that story of my father there too. :-)
(11 Aug '12, 13:44)
Wade Casaldi
@Wade Casaldi - Great story, thanks for sharing! I have heard accounts of such blindfolded defensive actions at the higher levels. Hope you enjoy the book, it has a treasured place on my shelf. :) @white tiger - Yes, that sounds similar to what "Unfettered Mind" speaks of. It looks at the fight from a "non-dualistic" perspective wherein there is no enemy, it is all part of one harmonious flow. I can't put it into words as good as the author can, so I'll let you check it out for yourself...
(11 Aug '12, 16:32)
lozenge123
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My son has been studying and practicing martial arts for years, carries around battered copies of The Art of War and The Way of the Samurai and meditates daily gazing at a wall. :) Shoulda seen him at 18 and 19 years old in the back yard at night practicing with his bloody great katana, scaring the hell out of the neighbors...Great kid. :) ...
(11 Aug '12, 18:27)
Grace
...Anyway, he has been telling me about these perspectives of "one harmonious flow" and energy transference for years - and how the art of war is really the art of peace... So I am somewhat used to the subject, but here it is obvious to me how little I really know about it, so thanks for the discussion and the links, guys.
(11 Aug '12, 18:31)
Grace
...oh and he also set me straight on who Bruce Lee really was. An amazing and wise man, I was so wrong in my perception of him.
(11 Aug '12, 18:38)
Grace
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@Grace I hope very much that was a practice Katana and not a razor sharp real Katana! Wow when I see the words bloody and katana not an image I want to think of since it is so easy cut off something important...
(11 Aug '12, 18:47)
Wade Casaldi
wade fudoshin or mizu no kokoro means mind like water. http://www.budodojo.com/FiveSpiritsOfBudo.htm also there is tsuki no kokoro mind like the moon.experience and enjoy.
(11 Aug '12, 18:55)
white tiger
LOL @Wade Casaldi that cracked me up! Reminds me of the wisdom of Eddie Izzard as to why you should never sleep with your sword - you can roll over and cut your bits off! No, the Katana weighs a ton, so I think it is real, but not sharpened. The "bloody great Katana" reference is my English showing when I get excited, sorry! Omg I laughed so hard I hhave tears running down my face...good one thanks for the laugh. :)
(11 Aug '12, 19:15)
Grace
One more thing, @Wade Casaldi, in my ignorance, I had no idea what your accomplishments on your profile really mean, so I read that to my son, and Googled you, and asked him what it was all about. He is a bit of a purist, and trust me, not at all easy to impress on this subject. He told me in no uncertain terms that you are one sincerely bad-assed mo fo, and that I'd better be sure to stay on your good side... Sir.
(11 Aug '12, 22:06)
Grace
@Grace thanks and to your son thanks! :-) not exactly terms I would use but I did get a kick out of them! lol And yes heavy Katana says practice sword all over it to me. When you have the real thing it is so balanced you could hold it with one hand and move it with your wrist. I have a few modern real ones but my dad owns some from Japan that came through WWII American soldiers that brought them back and eventually they were sold and he bought them. Those are very impressive! Perfect balance!
(12 Aug '12, 00:32)
Wade Casaldi
@Wade Casaldi, yes sorry for the language, but the admiration is pure. :) I tell my son about your dad's swords, I don't think he's ever had the opportunity to see a real one, he did say they can be beautifully made things.
(12 Aug '12, 00:47)
Grace
@Wade- You may also want to check out the founder of Aikido, Morihei Ueshiba. In his sons book, The Spirit of Aikido, records speak of how the Founder was very experienced in avoiding machine gun spitfire during the rare times he accidentally wondered into WW2 battle fields. He stated it as seeing "small pebbles of white light" just before the bullet flew by him. I believe he was the most spiritually evolved person I know of within the last 100 years.
(12 Aug '12, 04:15)
Nikulas
@Grace it's okay I know he meant it in the highest respect. :-) @Nikulas that is mind blowing! I have though watched Stan Lee's Super Human where a Samurai cut a pellet in two shot directly at him from a pellet gun. So I need to read that book this is the first I ever heard this of O'Sensei.
(12 Aug '12, 08:10)
Wade Casaldi
is not the word of God a double edge sword? For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. http://bible.cc/hebrews/4-12.htm experience and enjoy.
(12 Aug '12, 13:14)
white tiger
Thanks for sharing these great events. Would you mind expanding a bit on the depression thing? I can't really understand what happened. Thanks :)
(25 Sep '13, 05:25)
maugi
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Miracles? There are many miracles throughout history, no doubt some are false, but many true. It seems to me that these "miracles" can seem more ordinary when viewed from an actual viewpoint of "actual reality". Someone said that any advanced technology can be viewed as magic. A multi-ton piece of metal floating in the ocean. Is a man on a flying carpet harder to imagine than a great silver airplane flying through the air? Imagine ghosts, gods, demons and banshees. Imagine cites floating in the air or sunken in the seas. We continually read about these possibilities and consider them possible. Is there anything that is hard to imagine? It is a miracle that we are here. "Created" by our parents? A new being. Is it hard to imagine that we, as those beings, are in a blob of matter that we can do things like love, fight battles, play tennis, make love, or walk up stairs? And that this blob of matter will someday, "die", and our spirit will then transition somewhere else, we hope! Now, let's get in the NOW and imagine that blob of matter that contains our essence is standing on a ball of earth that is spinning at a thousand miles and hour through time and space in a Universe that dwarfs and stuns our mind as we try to comprehend its vastness? Is this Miracle enough? in the same way seing airplane in a remote tribe in africa would be a miracle or a big bird that ride the wind with is thunder. they might not understand that it is a airplane but you do and you know how it works. there is many things that we see and do not understand and other that we do not see and do not understand also,but in thy end you know that there is a reason for every thing to happen,you just need to find it out and understand it. experience and enjoy.
(11 Aug '12, 09:32)
white tiger
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Let's not forget about the psychic surgeons who open bodies & remove tumors and all kinds of things with nothing but their fingers. There are fakes out there, but I personally spent several weeks with one in the Philippines and witnessed countless surgeries by his side. I know this surgery is real, I put my hand inside of my own body at one point. He does many of these every day, it's just part of his normal everyday reality. It's no big deal and it's nothing that he considers supranormal. He has no super powers, he is able to do it simply because of his belief that he can. He was exposed to this sort of stuff as a child and therefore never given the opportunity to doubt it. Just think of what we all could do if we had been given the exposures as children. Of course, we wouldn't be having so much fun trying to figure all this stuff out then would we? |
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I actually do not have any real spiritual experiences. My fiance, however, has. Her father was a priest for a branch of Christianity called Pentecostalism. They believe heavily in entities and demons. In a few stories they've told me, they've had encounters with demonic entities. In one case, they told me of an elderly women in her mid 70's that had arthritis in many joints that was possessed and running across thin chain length fences that would have been nearly impossible for someone of that age and stature to do. She had a very high pitched voice, but after an exorcism, she spat up a small ball of tar that quickly evaporated afterwards. After everything was all said and done, her vocal chords were completely ruined and she had to speak with an electronic voice box. I had joked that she must have been a smoker for a long time, but was cut off when she said that she hadn't touched a cigarette a day in her life. I'm a little skeptic, but my fiance is a lot of things and a liar is not one of them. I will try to find a few links about super natural powers/entities and post them momentarily. There is one account of a guy on "Ripley's Believe it or Not" that has electrokinetic powers(He can control and create electrical currents with his body), but it's not very impressive. He can light up light bulbs with his finger and light a cigarette with his thumb. Thanks, @OposingTheMajority...that's fascinating. I know two people who have had firsthand experiences with possession/exorcism, and they are definitely not liars either. At one point I read "An Exorcist Tells His Story" by Father Gabriel Amorth, chief exorcist of Rome, and I was thoroughly convinced of the book's truth--although I didn't need much convincing by then. Curiously enough, the possessed more often than not tend to be pious and devout people (with a few exceptions). Not sure why.
(11 Aug '12, 00:43)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt6o9kOASUQ do not be surprise at my saying you all need to be born again. let there be light, be the light that you can be,experience and enjoy. |
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I know of someone who has claimed to have created storms and natural disasters, Large scale like The Tsunami in Japan, the Dust storms in AZ and Hurricane Katrina such things.... Manipulation of Lightning and other entities.. Are you saying you know of someone as in "I know of someone" or is this a question as in "Do you know of someone?" When you just write "know of someone" it is hard to tell if you are announcing or inquiering. I can edit it for you to make it more clear. If it is a question no, I don't know of someone like that. If it is an announcement I am stuned that you actually know someone like this!
(21 Apr '13, 13:44)
Wade Casaldi
Sry, I know someone, is what I meant to say. ;)
(21 Apr '13, 20:53)
Dragonflybreeze
Wow that is big stuff and why would he want to do that? It is not like we are at war with them. It is too bad he uses his power destructive purpose, instead of saving people with this power.
(21 Apr '13, 23:23)
Wade Casaldi
I am not too sure that it is even possible, sounds pretty far fetched if you ask me. He, However states that it is something that just "comes" sometimes. Like an Empath, when exposed to too much violence or trauma, he says it sometimes just manifests itself... What is your take on this? HE is generally a very kind guy. Even helps and heals animals, loves to garden, usually has a quality of serenity about him, peace and love.... Signed, confused.
(22 Apr '13, 09:33)
Dragonflybreeze
Also, it is not a he it is a she.
(24 Apr '13, 15:13)
Dragonflybreeze
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those are all normal things. it is just that you are not at that level yet. example of mosse the son was doing the work of the father and the father was doing the work that the son could not do. perfect example of collaboration. if this world would be in equity and collaborate and help each other you would see greather things then this. there is light in a person of light and it shines on the whole world if not it is dark. let there be light,be the light that you can be,experience and enjoy.