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If in the eyes of the universe everything is neutral and only we give meaning to circumstances, how does the universe then know what a frustrating situation for me looks like? So if i feel frustrated because of my car not working, the universe takes this feeling and gives me circumstances that match that feeling. For example i could manifest frustrating situations in my job, with my wife etc. But how does it know what a frustrating or happy, fearful, joyful, whatever situation for me looks like if in the end everything is just neutral? Does it save that information like in a big universal data base? If so how can i get things that i can't imagine right now? In this case there couldn't be saved info somewhere in the database about it. Universal Robocop Computer: "Joe finds burnt toasts in the morning very frustrating --> save this info to manifest this situation for him, when he feels predominantly frustrated because of other things in life." EDIT: @Cory I get the idea that everything is neutral and i believe in it. Even such things as kiling, raping etc. are essentialy neutral. We label those things as bad or not. We are free to choose. I think i have to clarify my question.
Do you believe that the universe will give you joyful situations if you just feel happy and joyful all the time? If so, let's say you are a tennis player who plays tennis all day long (as if you had nothing else in life to do:). You love tennis and so you feel joyful all day long every day (14 hours a day acitve, 10h sleep). So the universe answers that feeling and gives you more joyous things in general right? It not only gives you more tennis time and tennis matches because you love it, BUT ALSO other things that you can't imagine right now right? So lets say in this example you go to a restaurant after you played tennis and felt great as usual. Then in the restaurant you eat the best dish you ever came across in your life. It's a very exotic dish. You didn't even know that something amazing like this was ever possible to cook. Of course you know that's no coincidence. The universe responded to your joyful feelings from you daily tennis matches. But here is the question that i like to ask: How does the universe know that i would find this dish so incredible? I couldn't imagine this tasty dish ever in my own mind. So i couldn't give it a meaning and label it as "tasty" before. But the universe knew that i would find this dish joyful to eat. But how does the universe know? Why doesn't the universe give me something smelling like excrement as a dish in the restaurant because of my joyful feelings from me playing tennis? Because everything is neutral in the universe, i could have liked this, couldn't i? I just had to give the bad smelling dish another meaning and eat it joyfully.
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I think those words right there are the actual answer in my opinion. I can understand that you are trying to find a more meaningful reason for these occurrences or situations, but since we have free will, we get to decide what definition works best in our experience. The universe (or all that is) loves us so unconditionally, that it will be more than happy to allow us to experience frustration or joy whenever we desire those feelings. I believe we truly put the so called "label" on everything that occurs in our lives. Everything that we experience is naturally neutral. Even the things that society as a whole labels as bad or not right is fundamentally neutral. The human emotional filter is the deciding factor in choosing which direction we turn or how we perceive a situation. I believe the universe has a knowing that there really is no decision that is right or wrong. There is only experience. And experience is simply neutral until we give it an emotional trigger. That is why we decided to incarnate as a human being. There is no better place at this time to experience the wide range of emotions and contrasting situations than planet earth. The universe is simply allowing us to put "our own free will labels" on the things that occur in our lives. Our own individual reaction to a situation is coming from our own database of habitual emotions. The universe is open to anything and everything. We give the meaning through our emotional filters. Individualized beliefs are the core of specific emotions. Your emotional filter is what gives you the outcome of having burnt toast combined with the specific emotional reaction. The universe is so allowing, that it will be open to a new emotional reaction at any time you decide to change how you feel. Every emotional reaction is simply a set or repetitive vibrations that matches up to what you are observing. That is why it is so important to become aware of your awareness as much as you can throughout the day. When you become aware or focused on general observation of life, you can shift your unwanted emotional triggers in the opposite direction of your choosing. This is why the word "allowing" is brought up so much in conversation regarding reality creation. The universe is open to any and everything if we can just allow. The frustrating, happy, fearful, and joyful situations are just different frequencies ranges that we shift through with our emotions. We choose the frustration frequency and the universe say yes here you go. We choose joy and the universe says yes here you go. We choose the fearful frequency and the allowing universe says yes here you go.
Yes, I would say that it does. Since everything exists right now, then it would be pretty easy to match a vibration that we habitually shift to on a regular basis. It's similar to how we manifest every single moment of our reality every single second. We are so good at doing it becomes second nature and we don't even realize that we are constantly shifting to a new person at every moment. We ultimately get to decide in the end what is negative, positive, or neutral in our day to day life. There is no set instruction booklet when it comes to individual beliefs and emotions. @Cory Thank you. I answered in my initial post.
(09 Dec '12, 03:01)
releaser99
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It seems the biggest question you are asking is "How does the Universe know?" So let's address the apparent assumption in your question... the illusion of separation. You are not talking about Joe down the street or even the planets, stars and galaxies you see floating in space. When you refer to the "Universe", you are referring to an entirely different reality called "Infinite Intelligence". You must use a completely different paradigm when you refer to the "Universe" in this context. But because we can't comprehend Infinity, we are left with terms we CAN comprehend. So to simplify this, one might consider a biscuit in the ocean. You are the biscuit. And like a biscuit, you are not solid like you might think, but are very porous which means even though you look different from the ocean, the fact is - "You are in the ocean, and the ocean is in you". Now do you know how the Universe "knows"? To go a step further, remove the Earth from your self image and see yourself floating in the Universe. Now, does your question even seem relevant? And the last step? Remove your physical body from your self image and "Be" in the Universe as pure consciousness. This might be as close to understanding your relationship to the Universe as you can get without Much meditation. But this is sort of how the Universe "Knows" you. The Earth and all of your illusions about what you think you are or what you feel or want are No limitations to the reach of the Universe. It is Infinitely closer to you than your own heart beat. It IS you. THAT'S how the Universe "Knows". ;-) @Rindor Actually i like this answer and it explains many things but it implies also that i have no free will in the labeling process. If i am the universe and therefore i know what situations will bring me joy or frustration... then i have no free will in labeling circumstances/situations. Because i already know that for example this new dish will bring me joy...
(09 Dec '12, 18:40)
releaser99
...Hence if i am the universe then what i would find joyful or frustrating is predestined and fixed. I cannot change the label because i know there is already a label that i will give to the physical manifestation when it comes to physical reality. Otherwise a matching physical manifestion to my previous feeling couldn't come to me. Therefore i will change the question:...
(09 Dec '12, 18:41)
releaser99
...How do i (the universe = myself) know how i will label things that i haven't experienced and labeled before such as a new tasty dish? Saying i (the universe) simply knows because it knows implies, that this knowing from the universe (from me) is a fixed and bound knowing/label. This means i have no choice but to find the dish tasty when it manifests into my physical reality.
(09 Dec '12, 18:41)
releaser99
Interesting. Do you really believe Infinite Intelligence is limited in Any way and that it has no free will? You really must let go of the idea that It is bound by anything a human can conceive of. You are supposing there is only one possible outcome to an event and even though you might not know what it is, it will be the same no matter what you do. As if your response was decided on before hand by something outside of you. Predestined and fixed? Let's see...
(09 Dec '12, 20:02)
Rindor
Let's take your "tasty dish" and back up a bit as an example. How many events and decisions had to occur to bring it to you at just that moment? How many possible moods could you be in at that moment? How many different responses to that dish could you have had to it at that moment? And you are "not" at choice? You must also consider that what is infinite is already "there". It does not have to travel or decide or wait. ALL of it's creation is within it's consciousness at "Once". But...
(09 Dec '12, 20:09)
Rindor
Something was missing. "Experience". For example, the experience of "Not Knowing". How could the Infinite "not know" if the end of your story is already in It's awareness? The only way was for it to create, from Itself, a part of Itself that does not know who it is. And to create a place for it to Experience this. That is you... in this Universe. And even though the Infinite part of you already "Knows" the outcome, you do not. You are completely at choice. You Must be, or the experience...
(09 Dec '12, 20:27)
Rindor
...Infinite Intelligence is having is fake and contrived and you would be right... "predestined and fixed." Knowing the end of the story is just one of the qualities of being Infinite. But You always have the option of liking the dish or not, or maybe you're just not in the mood for it just now. Maybe it's your favorite, but your best friend just had an accident and you don't have time for it now as you must rush to help. Which means there are an infinite number of variables to making a...
(09 Dec '12, 20:32)
Rindor
...decision. So you must ask yourself... "Would Infinite Intelligence short change itself by fixing the outcome of all of your experiences "for you" and lose the "experience" of "not knowing"? Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of the experience? You MUST be at choice every second or the experience Infinite Intelligence is having is fake and contrived and as you say, "predestined and fixed". Do you think Infinite Intelligence would settle for that kind of sham? Heh, "Not On "YOUR" Life"!
(09 Dec '12, 20:57)
Rindor
You are Fully at choice at all times and the only thing that dictates your choices is "Who You Are". All the rest exists as possibilities. Left or right? Chicken or beef? Disney World or the in-laws for the weekend? Would you be healthy or sick? Rich or poor? And granted, some things are outside of your choice like your parents, where you are born and the color of your skin. Or are they? Did you choose those before you came? I have my own thoughts on this, but I think you get the idea. :)
(09 Dec '12, 21:12)
Rindor
Choice is an illusion. And you can always decide that the dish stinks even though it does not, but you have ability lie to yourself, even to such degree, you persuade yourself about it. And because things are in a certain way does predetermine understanding the upcoming event. "Everything that follows, is the result of what you see here". Cause and Effect. People call choice and free will because of the lack of understanding of all the small parts that are chained together and predetermine...
(10 Dec '12, 01:54)
CalonLan
...happening of the consequent parts. For the very same reason people call "Luck" at times they don't understand fully relationship and dependencies between events. Or "miracle" and "magic" when they can't explain what happen was caused by. Saying there's "free will" is ignorant. But that wouldn't be the first time in our history, would it. But telling you this is like trying to persuade you the Earth is round when you believe it's flat. At least I won't get crucified this time. lol
(10 Dec '12, 01:56)
CalonLan
Choice is an illusion for those who "choose" to believe it is. Remember this the next time someone asks what you want for dinner, burgers or pizza? ;-)
(10 Dec '12, 03:00)
Rindor
@Rindor, even what you gonna have for dinner is already decided. One thing will lead to another and it will result in an inevitable "choice". Illusion of choice becomes apparent when you substitute one of the "choices" with a plate of poop there's already preference existing for one over another. Little, subtle preferences of all ranges. And while somewhere in the future something might alter your preference in favor of the other, cause and consequences is ever present thus defying free will
(10 Dec '12, 03:29)
CalonLan
Or you tell me what is your choice based on? A.k.a why it has been made ;)
(10 Dec '12, 03:38)
CalonLan
@Rindor It appears not very logical to me. Maybe i have to reread your answer a few times to fully get it. If i have the choice to label a manifestation, than how can a manifestation ever be the perfect match to my previous feelings? Infinite inelligence means to me that everything is always possible so it defies logic and our understanding of the law of attraction. Because with my free will to label i can dubunk the LOA every time a manifestation occurs. Thanks for the food for thought.
(10 Dec '12, 06:05)
releaser99
@CalonLan, Why has a choice been made? Because it matches the feeling inside. That's why we do anything, because it feels good. So if it feels good to live without choice, then do it. @releaser99, the word "previous" means "what came before". You choose a label based on your "current" feeling, not on a past feeling. Observe your current manifestation and notice how you feel about it. THAT is your choice. The label will come from that feeling. Vibrational match is inevitable. But only right now.
(10 Dec '12, 11:33)
Rindor
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Good - Bad These are terms that relate to your frame of reference, your point of view. Esther Hicks saw a cat eat a bird. Esther said, "Bad cat." The cat said, "Good bird." Who is right in determining good and bad? If the Universe is neutral in an overall sense, it still can have contrast in a personal sense. I propose that feeling joy is not the manifestation, it is our connection with Something beyond the physical. Connection with Source. So the Universe is divinely uninterested in "bad" and "good". It does not manifest what you want. Not even what brings you joy. The Universe brings you what you ask for, what you put your energy and focus upon. The Universe does not understand Joy. The Universe responds, in kind (LOA) to you. Your connection with your Source, brings you joy. |
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Everything is energy vibrating at different frequencies. Different frequencies cause matter to form in different forms. We have free will in that we can choose what frequencies we put out, emit. We get back like an echo of what we put out. So, we tell the universe what we want with our vibration. It doesn't judge it, it just like harmonic resonance, sends more of the same frequency. We judge it, label it frustrating, joyful, etc... based on our own perceptions. The same experience can have different effects on different people. One person might be irritated, one might be frightened, one might find it funny, etc... watching or experiencing the same event, depending on their perception. When we conscienciously take control of the frequency we send out, we change the echo we get back. Here is a video that demonstrates how it plays out in life according to our beliefs, our vibrations. @Fairy Princess I think i couldn't express myself accurately (english is my 3rd language). I will try again. How does the universe know how i will label a manifestation? Let's say i feel joyful and therefore i manifest something in physical reality that i haven't ever labeled emotionally before. Now i could label it and say "wow, great! It makes me feel joyful." or i could say "What the is this? I hate it". How does the universe know how i will label it, when it brings me this manifestation?
(09 Dec '12, 18:42)
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@releaser99 Why does the universe need to know what you are going to label it? It is up to you to label it or not. That is how it knows what to send next, but the vibration you choose to emit as a response to the last offering.
(09 Dec '12, 21:02)
Fairy Princess
@Fairy Princess It needs to know how i will label it if it wants to bring me a perfect match manifestation. Otherwise how could it be a perfect match to my previous feeling? LOA gives me what it calls a perfect match. But because i have the free choice to label, i can proof the LOA wrong every time. For example it gives me a nice sports car because of my previous joyful feelings, but i choose to put the "i hate this car" label on this manifestation...
(10 Dec '12, 06:20)
releaser99
...So the LOA fails in bringing me a perfect match. Then it takes this hate feeling of me and gives me for example a fight with another person to match the hate feeling. But i decide with my free choice to label that i love this fight and appreciate it. So LOA fails again and again and again... if i want to.
(10 Dec '12, 06:20)
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@releaser99 take two guitars and set them next to eachother. Pluck a string on one guitar and the similar strings on the other guitar start to vibrate as well. Does the guitar need to know what key was plucked? No, it is in the vibration.
(10 Dec '12, 08:52)
Fairy Princess
@Fairy Princess Your analogy implies that there are fixed vibrations to fixed labels similar to a guitar. But if everything in the universe is neutral then every guitar string should be vibrating the same neutral vibrations and every guitar string that ever existed and will exist should make every other guitar string vibrate. If everything is neutral then it means i'm just labeling a neutral guitar string as a human being. But my labeling wouldn't change the neutral vibration at all.
(10 Dec '12, 10:21)
releaser99
@releaser99 I guess we have to go back to, what do you mean by everything is neutral? What are you basing this on? When I say neutral, I mean that the only labels are ones that we give them based on how we resonate with it by reflex or by choice. If someone says to you that you are ugly, you can choose to believe them or not. You can choose to even laugh at them. You can thank them. You choose how you respond. How you respond, sends out more vibrations.
(10 Dec '12, 10:34)
Fairy Princess
They are neutral in that they are not good or bad. They have frequencies, they are not flat nothingness, until you reach that place of nothingness.
(10 Dec '12, 10:35)
Fairy Princess
But my feelings are tied to my labeling process and thus to frequencies. Therefore -> good/bad-label = emotion in me = frequencies Why should an expensive sports car have a fixed frequency such as lets say the frequency of joy?
(10 Dec '12, 10:50)
releaser99
@releaser99 because you said so. Did you watch the video about luck that I posted? It really helps demonstrate how our beliefs allow us to see or not see what is right there. A person can be walking along the street all bummed out and miss a $20 bill laying on the ground as he walked, while another, more cheerfull chap comes along and spots it straght away. You only have access to what you are in tuned with. Change the frequency you emit, which is what I am working on, and change your reality
(10 Dec '12, 11:51)
Fairy Princess
@Fairy Princess - I like your comment!
(25 Dec '12, 06:03)
Dollar Bill
@Dollar Bill Thanks Which one?
(25 Dec '12, 10:25)
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@Fairy Princess - both the answer and the two guitars, vibrating together. I like the idea of music, @wade casaldi used a similar metaphor. A Sitar has a similar concept. There are strings that you don't play, but they vibrate in harmony with the strings you do play, sometimes amplifying, sometimes creating harmonic overtones. But one beautiful packge of music.
(25 Dec '12, 10:42)
Dollar Bill
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@releaser99, this is a great question, and in order to answer this question we need to use a different paradigm than just referring to 'the Universe'. Let's use the paradigm of the conscious and the subconscious mind. In this model, our individual subconscious mind is a part of and is connected to the universal subconscious mind (a.k.a. God). We also have our individual conscious minds. Conscious mind analyses situations using its programming, generates labels (which are called emotions), and then asks the subconscious mind to file the information away, along with the labels, for safekeeping and future use. Our conscious mind issues commands to subconscious mind via these emotions. Our subconscious mind transfers these commands to God to get us more events that match those emotions. So how does the subconscious mind know what kind of event to bring you? Very simple. It knows because it has built up the massive database of situations and labels that the conscious mind has fed it. It's an involuntary process and you have since birth stored away possibly trillions of entries in this database. Every day the database is growing. So the subconscious mind knows very well what kind of event the conscious mind may label 'nice', or 'exciting', or 'hurtful'. The individual subconscious mind constantly learns from the individual conscious mind. When you drive a car for the very first time, the conscious mind is in command. It is scared, cautious and it is passing on all its experiences to the subconscious mind. After 6 months, the subconscious mind has become an expert in driving. The conscious mind then wanders off to more interesting things leaving the subconscious mind to drive the car safely. I hope this answers your question satisfactorily. |
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everything as a balence. left,right. up,down. inner,outer. light ,darkness.hot,cold.male,female.heart,mind. flesh,spirit.you,other. the universe is and you are in it. you affect it and are affected by it. where do you focus your heart? where do you focus your mind? how do they relate to each other?how do the inner relate to the outer? are you in balence when you are frustrated? or are you in balence when you enjoy? you assume that because you enjoy tennis. that is also why you enjoy the new dish that you have tried.could it be that the new dish was good? if it was not good you would not have enjoy it. if you would not have enjoy it you would have took your obligation and responsibility and using your free will you would not have eat it. me if i would have been with you all day, looking at you in the day i would have seen it.and would not have order the dish if it was no good.why because i was aware of it(knowing),learning from your experience. yes the universe as give it to you but you picked it(using free will).the creator creates using is free will and you are made in is image. and you came in this world to experience and enjoy. like a small seed to have fallen on the ground. 3 Hearken; Behold, there went out a sower to sow: 4 And it came to pass, as he sowed, some fell by the way side, and the fowls of the air came and devoured it up. 5 And some fell on stony ground, where it had not much earth; and immediately it sprang up, because it had no depth of earth: 6 But when the sun was up, it was scorched; and because it had no root, it withered away. 7 And some fell among thorns, and the thorns grew up, and choked it, and it yielded no fruit. 8 And other fell on good ground, and did yield fruit that sprang up and increased; and brought forth, some thirty, and some sixty, and some an hundred. 9 And he said unto them, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear. 10 And when he was alone, they that were about him with the twelve asked of him the parable. 11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables: 12 That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them. 13 And he said unto them, Know ye not this parable? and how then will ye know all parables? 14 The sower soweth the word. 15 And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts. 16 And these are they likewise which are sown on stony ground; who, when they have heard the word, immediately receive it with gladness; 17 And have no root in themselves, and so endure but for a time: afterward, when affliction or persecution ariseth for the word's sake, immediately they are offended. 18 And these are they which are sown among thorns; such as hear the word, 19 And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful. 20 And these are they which are sown on good ground; such as hear the word, and receive it, and bring forth fruit, some thirtyfold, some sixty, and some an hundred. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_Sower so let there be light ,Be the light that you can be experience and enjoy. |
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Just like water can be solid and still (ice) and it can become less solid and more in motion like water or even less solid with more motion like steam, the same thing happens with your energy. When your energy vibrates at a certain rate, the universe joins you with similar vibrations. This is called "Resonance". |
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@mastermind2 I think contrast (ying and yang) plays a role in this. Thanks for the insight.
@releaser99 In response to your EDIT, I will say first off that I in no way shape or form have everything figured out about this mysterious thing we call "The Universe." I am most definitely still a work in progress in living this thing called life and probably will be until the day I remove focus from this body.
"But how does the universe know?"
The best answer I can give is that "all possibilities exist right now."
@releaser99 I personally don't know all of the inner workings of the universe (at least in this human form at this time) and I kind of like it that way. Having some mystery in life can be really exciting. I just like to keep it simple with the idea that anything is possible instead of trying to break everything down into a complex mathematical formula :)
@cory are mystery not something that you learn the truth about like a surprise. and you marvel at it. and you learn the truth about it. so what are mystery? learning things that escaped your awareness until you are ready to uncover it.yes it is exciting to experience and enjoy that.
@Cory I didn't really expect an ultimate answer in the first place. Just thought maybe some of the channeled entities gave an answer that comes close to some kind of truth and somebody here on IQ knows it. And also i wanted to know if someone have thought about this topic before. Thank you for some inspiring ideas. Thank you all!
@releaser99 My comment about breaking things down into a complex mathematical formula wasn't being directed towards you or your question. I was just using that as an example of how we human beings as a whole sometimes like to try to figure everything out in a scientific way of thinking. Sometimes the easiest way to get an answer to a question like this is to put the intention out there and simply clear you mind and know the answer will come in due time.
@releaser99 Everyone of us already has every answer we need right now anyway. We just need to get out of the way and let it come through the front door.
If you are looking for a more direct answer from a higher consciousness entity to this question, you may want to try TReb Bor yit-NE's open forum questions I would be curious was he has to say about this thought provoking question.
@white tiger "learning things that escaped your awareness until you are ready to uncover it.yes it is exciting to experience and enjoy that."
Well said my friend. Thank you.
@Cory Good idea! Maybe he could give us some more insights about this. Thanks.