@Satori This is a much better answer than mine. Well done.

@Catherine- Thank you for the kind words. Its just a matter of perspective though, so some people will more benefit from your answer and won't know what the hell I'm on about lol.It's all good Catherine:)

@Satori, great answer. explained nicely without any judgement, in an attempt to help. Thanks for great insight. a question regarding The Presence Process, can I undertake it in conjunction of other aligning methods such as ME2 and ME5? Thanks for the link.

This isn't "inspired action". Yes, it is meant as a sedative, a way to get my mind off the perception of lack and pain. I have been repeatedly told that this is what I have to do because those are the only things keeping me from what I want. I don't know what you are talking about as far as "emotional charges", what you are describing does not sound like my experience. Looking at the process you linked, I don't feel there is any value in it for me.

@Dreamersmiles- Thank you very much. To be honest I don't think you need to. The Presence Process is really a complete process on its own. I thought about adding to the process when undertaking it but when I looked into why I was doing it I found it was because I felt the process was not enough on its own. So already I wasn't trusting the process. It's better to leave thinking out of this one. I hope that helps:)

@Flowsurfer - Where have you been told to suppress uncomfortable feelings to get what you want? This is just another form of unacceptance and creates more pain. In my experience you've got to accept how you truly feel first before you can feel better.

I will try to explain emotional charges better. We are naturally conditioned to resist pain. So a lot these experiences we have throughout our life that create a strong emotional response from us never fully process....

@Flowsurfer - We accumulate and archive a lot of these incompletions ( incomplete experiences as the author Tom Stone refers to them) in the mind and body. The problem is they have been with us so long we don't realise we're feeling them, so they just manifest as maybe a vague sense of unease or heaviness.

I wish I could have been more help here Flowsurfer. I hope you find the answer your looking for.

@Satori I have been told to stop focusing on uncomfortable feelings to get what I want. The word "suppress" was not used. I do not understand what "accept how you feel" is supposed to mean. In what sense are the things that block me from for example, growing taller, emotional charges? I get it when it is something like fear of a particular course of action (example: a social phobia) which blocks you from taking appropriate action. I don't think that is my problem.

@Satori I have nothing inherently against the idea of focusing on bad emotions and feeling them fully; except I don't see the relation between doing that and actually being the person I want to be. It just sounds like a way to become more nihilistic. If the relation exists, please help me see it. I am only interested in a process if it is a path towards living in the way I want to live, not just coping with the way things are. I'm not seeking "emotional enlightenment" or anything of the sort.

@flowsurfer it is not about focusing on bad emotion but meditating just be aware what bother you will come of it self. then just observe it and learn the truth about it. example:you know about fear what do you fear? for what reason? is it logical to fear that? does it serve you to fear? if you fear because it is a signal to protect your self it is good. but if you fear for no good reason does it serve you? it might seams intellectual like that but when you meditate you just stay aware and

observe and solve your duality by learning the truth. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6eTbhHE0jM

@Flowsurfer - Our desires exist on a higher vibration. We're only a vibrational match to them for a split second we launch them. Then we usually drop out of that vibration. Emotional charges can get in the way of us maintaining that higher vibration where our desires are. We exist within one energy field so when we raise our vibration those painful energies also get roused and usually manifest as obstacles to us feeling good.....

@Flowsurfer - I think your on the right track here. Keep focusing on whatever feels good to you. Follow the path of positive emotion and whatever is getting in the way will show itself. I hope this helps :)

@white tiger I fear wasting time and growing old without having the experiences of youth I want to have. Because I have wasted time and grown old and lost experiences of youth I wanted to have. It is logical to fear this, with the evidence that I have available. It serves me because it is a signal to protect me (I just don't quite know how to respond to the signal). That is the core fear I have (and I imagine everyone else too), the fear of permanent loss.

@white tiger That feeling and thought, that God does not love me and I am unsafe and unsupported in the universe is the root of all my negative emotions.

@flowsurfer Actually I've misled you there a little bit - what I should have said is "something that is integrative and positive wouldn't harm anyone else or make them feel bad".

And what is integrative and positive?

@flowsurfer For me, that would be a walk in nature. The point is that what makes a person feel good is really an indicator of who/where they are. Answer honestly to yourself - does this make my heart sing? Does this feel like love to me? About 80% of porn is verbally and/or physically aggressive, usually towards women. Everything is OKay because there really is no right or wrong but as a broad-based guideline - no action which causes harm or hurt to another leads to rapid evolution.

A walk in nature does not make my heart sing. There are different types of porn which are more or less attractive to me at different times. A lot of the time I'm just drawn to what is called "erotic nudes", which just showcase the beauty of the female body and have more close ups of the woman's smile than of genitals. I mostly dislike "hardcore" stuff. However, light aggression can be fun sometimes.

Men probably suffer more pain from women than women do from men. Think about this for a moment. A man is told he has to be sensitive; then when he is sensitive he is rejected for being too soft. Can you imagine the confusion most boys go through? Most men are afraid of approaching an attractive women; this is a literal, gut-level feeling, not just "doubt"; they need an excuse to interact with her. Women in general may fear rejection but they don't have the same kind and intensity of fear. Why?

I'm not saying this as a "complaint". I'm merely trying to point out that the degree of male aggression and female submission shown in porn movies is just one (very widespread) fetish/preference. Some women like it. Some women feel hurt by it. But if people stopped having preferences just because others felt hurt by them, women would have to treat men very differently.

@flowsurfer The above is only my opinion - no one has to take it on board. In answer to your question of course I can imagine the confusion that young men feel - I suppose IMO porn isn't the answer to that confusion, that rejection - it just creates more disconnection, more isolation. Ultimately we are all genderless spirit beings anyway - I'm not in any rush to put men down. I don't consider them so very different - I was raised in a house of boys!

@flowsurfer i understand what you mean when men talk with a women often the women will complain you see that often in business place.so men try to avoid interacting with women to not have harassement charge against them or a bad reputation,with out them knowing about it or knowing about it and loose their job.men never know if the women is a professionnal victim.also if the men is good is rejected and if he is bad he is accepted so what does men learn is that women do not know what they want-

and prefer the exact opposite from what they say and they foul them self and do some bad stuff to men because they are not able to be honest with them self and with men.

I'm not saying that when women hurt men they are doing something bad. They have their values and preferences just like men do. These should be respected. Men often like to feel dominant and women often like to feel dominated. This is a generalization, obviously, and there are degrees and contexts involved. When there is a disconnect between context and degree, the other side gets hurt. Porn movies have to compress, to convey these things and more, in a relatively short scene.

well porn movie is sometime good. but most of the time it is more about mecanic sex (going at it for 2 hours) fake robotic humen with fake dick, fake boobs with no feeling, then a nice movie with good actor that can act show real feeling with a genuine good story to put the porn in context and make you believe that you are there. often you will find erotic movie better even if there is less sex and less body part.

@Grace Thank you Grace.

Men (most of them anyway) do not view porn in that sense of women as "meat". It's actually the idea of the woman being turned on and enjoying herself that makes porn attractive to most men so there isn't really a need to fear it. It is the acceptance and enjoyment of men's sexuality by women that men seek in porn (that and good looks). Men find the idea of women not enjoying sex repulsive; do women not know this?

@flowsurfer I'm not sure I can say anything more than I've already said on this topic. I sense you are trying desperately to feel good - all I'm saying is that this isn't the way to go but many others would disagree with me! Satori has given you some good advice - even reading The Presence Process would give you some insights.

@Catherine You are not alone. (sorry I'm late) I have absolutely no sexual inhibitions, no hang-ups what-so-ever, always been on the experimental side & I do NOT like porn. Hard porn is a total mood killer. I've never understood why; perhaps @ursixx 's brain on porn explains it. I don't care what anyone else does & I have nothing against porn; it's just not for me. As for your daughters - yes, child porn does kill & you are right to be concerned.

None of this made any sense to me.

I'll revisit Bashar. What I found previously is that most of what Anka says makes little sense and a lot just sounds dishonest and cheap. You are supposed to have no expectation because his strategy doesn't lead you anywhere and his understanding is false. Expectation is a means of falsifying something. If you expect a result and get another, that means your understanding was flawed. When your understanding is clear, your expectations are always validated.

Which is why I get a lot more relief from the ideas of Neville Goddard than these channeled "teachers". He explicitly tells people "Look, if this didn't work I wouldn't be teaching it; I live by it, despite by many flaws. Expect results. Expect specific results. If your expectation isn't met, persist until it is." His examples are not general "Feel good" stuff, they involve generating specific experiences to a Twilight Zone degree. Joy comes automatically.

Bashar also lives by what he says. I would like to know if your expectations are fulfilled as you (physical mind) may expect them to be fulfilled. There's a difference between expectation & expectancy. I have my own experiences to know the truth of the info. given by bashar & you'd be missing his point without yours. All the best in your explorations. :)

Some expectations are fulfilled as my physical mind expects them to be fulfilled. For example, when I push these buttons letters show up on the screen, as I expect them to. If I jump, I fall back down as I expect to. Human life would be impossible without expectations; and would be horribly confusing if most of those expectations were not fulfilled. The expectations that are not fulfilled are those that involve a large gap in my understanding. Tell me about your experiences.

@flowsurfer, just keep whacking off. If you do it enough, you may be able to transcend Troll.

@Gumnaam, thanks for posting this: "that's what I'm talking about." :)

@Bedazzled, flowsurfer is not a troll! IMHO Anyone who's attracted to and beginning to understand Neville Goddard is well on their way to understanding Bashar. He is simply working his way through some negative beliefs...

@flowsurfer, 15 years ago I dismissed Bashar as utter nonsense. These days I live my life by using many of the principles he teaches. Right now, every day I'm happy and feeling good and I love my self and my life absolutely and unconditionally.

I suggest that you study only those teachers who resonate with you and ignore the rest. Because by doing that any other teacher will naturally find their way to you and you to them. Neville Goddard kicks ass 8-)

@Bedazzled It doesn't feel right; it's not who I want to be and it makes me feel bad. So I guess that plan failed.