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In my experience it is better to focus on feeling good and on things you do want rather than focusing on things you don't want. Abraham would say that it's not possible to focus on and clean up all negativity because LOA would give you even more if it. However actually it can sometimes be beneficial to clean up many limiting beliefs in one go. Also some spiritual teachers say that it is possible to clean up your entire life and reach a state called awakening or enlightenment. Eckhart Tolle is one of them. He speaks about the "pain body" and refers to the body-mind connection and negative emotions that you feel in your body when you have a problem. His assumption is that if you clean up the pain body, there is nothing to feel bad about anymore. You feel connected to the whole all the time all day long and you live in a blissful state. Some might call it enlightenment. Having that said it doesn't mean you can stop cleaning up or stop being present after awakening. They say it is an ongoing process and practice. Tom Stone also speaks about the pain body and he says that it is possible to clean up the entire pain body in about 6 month to 2 years with modern pure awareness techniques whereas in the past it could take 30 years and more for classical meditators he states. The Sedona Method guys such as Hale Dwoskin or Larry Crane also say that you can make releasing constant and reach enlightenment if you release (focus on negative and positive and let it go) constantly. So there are 2 opposing assumptions. Can we clean up our entire life? Or is it impossible?
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I think if our lives were finite then it would be possible to clean them all up. It would be like having a To Do list with a fixed number of items to work on. However, all of us are launching desires everyday just in the act of being alive. Even those who claim to be desireless are actually launching daily desires to continue with their illusion (delusion) of being desireless :) In that sense, our lives are infinite and eternally changing. So, to answer your question, trying to "clean up" a list of items that is growing faster than you can clear it is eventually doomed to failure...by definition :) What I think is happening with the folks who apparently do a full clean-up and remain generally in that good-feeling place is that they are relying on the magnetic quality of the Vortex to keep themselves from drifting too far from that state of alignment. I've previously described how I think that "vibrational Vortex twist" works in Can hypnosis change your limiting beliefs without addressing the root cause (specific event)? That's why once you can get yourself consistently to a good-feeling place (through building habits of Vortex alignment), you can pretty much "coast" through your life seemingly on auto-pilot...as long as you commit to doing that relatively small amount of regular realignment work. I think the way to demonstrate this "vibrational twist" is happening is to ask anyone who believes they have actually cleaned up their entire lives to simply stop any regular deliberate Vortex realignment (they will obviously use different terminology) and watch how quickly the "painful" stuff starts reappearing due to fresh new desires being launched. I've gone through this "getting sloppy for a while" process enough times in my own life to be fairly certain what the result will be :) @Stingray While I appreciate your answer I'm not sure if the state many so called awakened spirituals call enlightenment could only be defined as temporary vortex alignment that you can loose in matter of days. They tell that there was a sudden shift that let them know they were enlightened. I really don't know what to do whith that kind of information...
(08 Feb '13, 23:27)
releaser99
...But I think it might be possible that enlightenment is a completely different state than simple vortex alignment (maybe unconditional vortex alignment without reasoning?!?). However for now I will just focus on the positive because it feels good to do so. Assuming you are vortex aligned since many years... did you have an enlightenment experience or huge shift in perception by vortex aligning constantly?
(08 Feb '13, 23:27)
releaser99
So I definitely agree that launching new desires creates new limiting beliefs that create new reasons to re-align. But maybe all the old pain from the past wouldn't come back? Maybe just new forms of pain would come because of launching new desires. So maybe after enlightenment and then launching new desires it could take 2-3 focus blocks to reach enlightenment again?
(08 Feb '13, 23:50)
releaser99
@releaser99 Enlightement is knowing the mystery.Loa is manifestation of desire. it is writen in the tao. Empty of desire, perceive mystery. Filled with desire, perceive manifestations. These have the same source, but different names. Call them both deep- Deep and deep again deep: The gateway to all mystery. http://totherow.tripod.com/index-6.html
(09 Feb '13, 03:31)
white tiger
one that as more knowledge,wisdom and understanding of the mystery. as less chaos in him so is reasoning is more in order.he does not seek desire of the ten thousand things. He experience them and learn from it. there are different level of lotus in the water.some in darness under the water some under the water that start to see light some at the edge of the water and some that see the sun and some that their essence have reach the sun.
(09 Feb '13, 03:42)
white tiger
I have added the essence part to make you understand something. about the level of lotus.But something more important is to understand the water and spirit.the level when the the water and spirit becomes one is when the lotus is at the water edge and is starting to stand on the water and the lotus open.before the essence go up to the sun.Now you know the link between those 2 teaching.
(09 Feb '13, 04:01)
white tiger
@releaser99 - You would have to ask those people who claim to be "enlightened" how the state differs from being Vortex-aligned because I can't see a difference. I certainly wouldn't put myself in the category of being "enlightened" so I don't really have enough life experience of this supposed state to comment further on it. "Maybe just new forms of pain would come because of launching new desires" - I agree. Though no desire ever has to reach the level of being "painful".
(10 Feb '13, 09:13)
Stingray
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we can only clear up what we know about ourselves and knowing ourselves may go on forever, way past that of intellectual mind. it is unlikely to clean up all the illusion of the self in one lifetime
(10 Feb '13, 12:38)
fred
Cleaning up can be fun. I think that's the key to staying in or near the vortex on a consistent basis. Desires are never painful because you know you HAVE everything now, you already have it. So when you find a new desire you automatically clean up by KNOWING its yours and practising the thought of having it rather than wanting it. You play with the idea in your mind and because you know its already yours its all fun. Whether the thing you desire is physically there or just present in your mind.
(09 Apr '15, 06:54)
Yes
.. It's still yours whether in your mind version or in the physical reality version. The playing with it in your mind is often the fun bit. By the time it manifests (which just means you've practised it in your mind version until it's automatic knowing) you're already playing with the next thing in your mind and on it goes.
(09 Apr '15, 06:58)
Yes
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You can certainly clean up emotional charges / incompletions from past painful experiences that we have suppressed. Or at least to a degree that is manageable. This is what Eckhart Tolle refers to as the pain body. This pain body is quite natural as we are human and are conditioned to resist pain. You cannot stop the flow of life though. You continually expand by the automatic launching of new desires. You gotta go with the Flow or else you just create more resistance.
Eckhart Tolle also understands this this flow of life and says not to resist it. Once you dissolve the pain body your less likely to resist the flow of life. His teachings are really just based on making peace with this continual expansion so you can enjoy the present moment. Stingrays Advanced Focus Blocks Method is actually tailor-made to cope with this.
@Satori Thanks. So englightenment must mean instant alignment. Because if you don't resist the flow und you don't have to do vibrational work to be in the flow, you align automatically with every desire you launch instantly. You don't have to talk yourself into alignment.
(09 Feb '13, 15:10)
releaser99
@Releaser99 - Isn't Enlightenment only a perception? Every time you enter the Vortex you could say you are enlightened because then (Abraham) you see the world through the eyes of Source.:)
(09 Feb '13, 15:18)
Satori
@Satori Yes, I would agree on that. I don't believe that the feeling of being enlightened is any better or worse than good old vortex alignment. It must be just a different perception.
(09 Feb '13, 15:23)
releaser99
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After reading about Lester Levenson and about how he "went free" by practising emotional releasing constantly for three months (If I remember correctly), I felt inspired to let go of all my emotional issues too. I learned about the Sedona Method and Release Technique, and set about trying to release resistance from all areas of my life. However, I found that by spending time looking for things to release, I created more of these negative things in the long run. These days, I prefer to focus on the positive. If something negative comes up, I release it, but my first goal is always to focus on the positive. I find it works much faster for me. Because of my time spent focused on methods like the Sedona method, it has actually taken me a while to get used to focusing on the positive again, rather than looking for the negative in order to release it. I don't regret my time spent on exploring releasing methods, but I admit the time would have been better spent focusing on the positive. However, I'm undecided on this. I think it is possible to clean up our entire lives, but while doing so, we need to keep the positive intention in mind first and foremost. For example, if I am clearing up a particular issue, my intention should be on feeling positive about my goal, and not to find resistance towards my goal. In practice, it is a subtle difference, and it may be easy to get confused or sidetracked, but I think you described it well in your reply to this question about how to release resistance on a goal. Problem is, because a lot of people that are trying to learn about releasing methods are coming from a place of pain and discomfort, they are not well-versed enough in focusing on the positive first. I certainly wasn't. @cassiopeia I really don't know. I also started with releasing techniques a few years back and while they helped me I couldn't feel good as I feel now with Abraham knowledge. Maybe there is a missing ingredient to becoming enlightened such as Lester Levenson!? But I really don't have the time to figure it all out. So I will just focus on the positive :). Why? Simply because it works for me:).
(08 Feb '13, 23:35)
releaser99
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No, I don't think that you can ever clean up your life. You can't ever "get it right". There will always be contrast. Desire. It is our contrast that summons Source, Life Force. As you summon Source, you feel joy in the summoning. |
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Because life is not a piece of granite. It is not even like a river. Granite is solid and can be chipped into a perfect statute. A river flows but as well stays the same path never changing. Life is more like the wind, always flowing but as well always changing. To "Straighten out" my life would be like to chip away at the granite until it is perfect. But since life is like the wind, we can attempt to mold the wind and when we get it just as we like, we find it had again already changed. As Grace said we can't change the wind but we can adjust the sails to steer through life. It is a continuous course correction, because life flows and is not predictable, but it is navigable. 1
@Wade Casaldi - Love your answer. Beautiful way to look at this. You don't change the wind, you adjust your sails. :)
(09 Feb '13, 22:21)
Grace
@Grace Ah excellent, that is the missing piece! Yes much agreed, adjust the sails.
(10 Feb '13, 07:38)
Wade Casaldi
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Yes it is true that you can clean up your life think about it. You are born and they push loads of information in your head and want to make you be what they think you should be.Ego is born.Division,chaos.How do you make that clean up?Meditation being aware getting to know your self inside out. solving your inner puzzle that are not solved. i would compare it to a table that you would put multiple puzzle on it. It creates confusion and that chaos and disorder make it very not easy to achive making 1 puzzle and now you have more then one all mixed up on the table. so basically doing those puzzle and making order in you makes it easier to do more puzzle and keep the place clean after ward. you could also compare it with a computer defragmented and one not defragmented. one that is defragmented is in order the information on the drive is compressed takes less place and run faster and smoother. while a computer not defragmented the information is not in order not compressed it takes more space and the computer run slower and sometime even crash.What is the mind anny way is it not like a computer?Storing information and running process. With computer they recommend to do a defragmentation if you put more then 2G or each month. Since when did you not do your own inner clean up? The more a Computer is not defragmented the more time it takes to clean up. usely it takes only a fee minutes,but if you do a defragmentation on computer that never have been defragmented for many year it can take many hours. Look at this world many language all saying similar stuff. Many religion all facet of the original message,Often divided and judging each other. all people and human being divided by language,religion,race,colors,nation,country,continent,tradition,ceremony. Is there some similarity between the inside and the outside? |
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All trues are true. What is your truth? What if every human alive on earth told you it's not possible? Would you keep doing something that excites you even if everyone around including ALL so called teachers & masters say you can't get what you want? Are you doing what you are doing out of excitement & joy? You may want to use bashar's "Threshold of Believability". |
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@Releaser99 - I like Oshus quote on Enlightment:
Enlightenment is finding that there is nothing to find. Enlightenment is to come to know that there is nowhere to go. Enlightenment is the understanding that this is all, that this is perfect, that this is it. Enlightenment is not an achievement, it is an understanding that there is nothing to achieve, nowhere to go. You are already there.
Life is just for just for the joy & the experience of it:)
@Satori This quote means in my understanding that either you don't launch desires (which is impossible, but you can reduce them to a bare minimum). And you stay in the now and just live from moment to moment. OR it means instant alignment. So you launch desires but you have such a deep understanding (enlightenment) that you are already complete that you instantly align without having to do any kind of vibrational work.
What I found is that those enlightened folks seem to launch 2 major categories of desires regularly. They desire freedom of mind and they desire teaching other people how to become free. Along the way of those 2 major desires there will be other related desires for sure. Maybe they desire a blackboard to teach better?:)
Or maybe they desire a computer with proper software to write a book about how to be enlightened?:) So I assume enlightenment must then mean instant alignment without having to do any kind of vibrational work.
@Releaser - Desires are Eternal and automatic but aligning with a desire does not have to be a painful experience. Its up to us to decide how painful we want that experience of alignment to be.
@Satori I find it actually fun to align with a desire by talking myself into alignment and doing the vibrational "work" :). However I'm just curious :).