For many years now I've been feeling angry with God/the Universe because I have tried to live a kindly and good life and nothing seems to have worked out for me. This feeling does fluctuate and working on myself and my relationship with God/the Universe, I have felt less anger and more Faith in the last year or two that there is some justice in the world and I haven't been totally abandoned. But recently a couple of things have happened which seem to me so unjust (basically bad things happening to 'good' people and good things happening to 'bad' people), and I feel that God or the Universe should just not allow these kinds of things to happen whether directly or through the action of Universal Laws. I feel abandoned and angry with the Universe! And I feel angry that I can't control these external situations while God could control them if He chose to. Perhaps I want God or the Universe to see justice in the same way I do. I'm sure this anger isn't helping me with manifestation of a better future. Any ideas on how to overcome this anger when you feel that God is being unjust? asked 20 Nov '13, 16:28 Inner Beauty |
The Universe runs very well without any intervention from us. It is we who need to become honest and just say, "I am very angry, now who do I blame for that." When we take a third party to blame for our own shortcomings, ie, a god or a solar system or a universe, we miss out on learning some great insights about ourselves and our lives. mem answered 30 Nov '13, 12:40 memHal |
Just as hot and cold are on the same continuum so is god and evil, abandon and support ... anger and joy In consciously altering your mood from anger to joy your actually strengthening your vibration, you're amplifying it. Visualize a situation in which your feelings of anger and abandonment are replaced by feelings of joy and support. In so doing you're elevating your vibration which will actually cause it to manifest into your reality.
painting by Madalena Lobao-Tello "the-joy-the-anger_and-the-fear" answered 21 Nov '13, 09:49 jaz |
I'm going to recommend a book to you... Richard Bach's Illusions, the Adventures of a Reluctant Messiah. It's a beautiful book, an inspirational book. In some ways, it is a book within a book, referring to a fictional manuscript called The Messiah's Handbook: Reminders for the Advanced Soul. Quoting a couple of passages from The Handbook:
answered 21 Nov '13, 16:39 Vesuvius Thank you. Will definitely read it. Yes, I'm sure it's a matter of perspective.
(22 Nov '13, 01:27)
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Well I'm going to add another book to your library reading list from the useful IQ angels. Im sure you're probably as sick as I am of seeing it in the active questions forum: Since learning about the law of attraction in late 2010, the very first thing I applied was this frame: I am nice to others. I am good to the universe. Therefore, other people, future circumstances, the universe, (by law) must be good back to me. The issue here is, this isn't real change. You need to adopt an attitude and inshakeable frame of mind where you will do your best to have as much fun with life as you can. It doesn't mean pretending. It doesn't mean being grateful when bad things happen. It's more of a decision to accept things, move forward and adopt a psychology of play and enjoyment. Once you decide on this more permanent state of mind, automatically, good things will start happening. However, you won't notice nor even give a damn. You will already be enjoying your own company and your own fun, so as outside things can just add on to it. If I could coach my former self those few years ago, I'd say this: don't worry about universal laws and don't even get caught up in how they work. Rather, just enjoy your own company and be a source of fun and enjoyment: Here's a man I met from my confidence course that defiantly knows his stuff. He can put people in good moods instantly: This is (an informal) the law of state transference and all about drawing state from within. answered 22 Nov '13, 03:38 Nikulas 2
Tyler/Owen is pretty cool, however, I don't think your answer addresses her concern over metaphysical insecurity. Her question is this: "I do not believe I am in control of life. The way I see it unfold around me causes me anxiety, it triggers a sense of insecurity. How do I ease this anxiety?" Simply saying "Have fun" doesn't help. She is asking how she can feel safe enough to have fun.
(22 Nov '13, 06:22)
flowsurfer
Thank you watched the video. Yes I agree should focus on things that make you happy.
(22 Nov '13, 11:41)
Inner Beauty
@Nikulas My up-vote to your answer that excludes "don't worry about universal laws and don't even get caught up in how they work".
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is God being unjust? or does he provide the opportunity for people to better them self? If the bad one do some bad stuff to other and fail miserably their test and the good one passing their test with success. even if in this world you cannot see the rewards, and you will see it in the next one. are you not angry because you are unaware about this? if you are looking in this present world for justice , mercy and good faith often you will not find it. if God would remove people free will and the chance for them to grow and be the light that they can be, would that not be even more unjust? let me give you something that as not touch your mind, maybe that anger is your test. if you are in anger are you at peace? if you are in anger are you merciful? if you are in anger are you in truth? if you are in anger are you united or divided? if you are in darkness are you the light that you can be? are you discerning or are you in judgment? You judge after the flesh, I judge no man but if I judge my judgment is true. Job 5.17 you say: I feel angry that I can't control these external situations while God could control them if He chose to. why do you seek to control external things? should you not seek to control inner things first? you are made in the image of God and have free will as he have, if God would control those external things what would you have to do? what would you have to learn? since everything would be perfect and you would have no hope for something better and no way to better your self. God does not need to improve himself you do. would you do everything for a child is choir, is homework, etc... yes sometime he is lost and in division, he needs to find him self. will he find him self outside or inside? when you walk does it start inside you to make the choice to move to put one feet before the other in balance? or is it someone outside of you that say to you those things? if you think it is because of someone outside of you go outside and speak to a boulder and say to it move, start walking if he does not move when you speak to him. then you will know where to look for your self. open the windows of the house, make thine eyes single, clean the inside of the cup, solve your division in truth. let there be light, be the light that you can be, experience and enjoy. answered 21 Nov '13, 21:11 white tiger Thanks @white tiger. Yes, I see that there is no justice in this world especially in this point in history and that is just something that we all have to accept. I'm not actually angry I guess, ie. I am not at an angry person, I'm more disappointed with God, but I'm sure that all your questions above still apply.
(22 Nov '13, 01:30)
Inner Beauty
there is some justice but it as to start with in. look at it this way if I would say I will judge every one that is not good or does not make any error and tell lie and get rid of them get rid because I am angry at them for what they do. then who would be left to grow experience and enjoy. tell me if one person is really good in this world? should I judge the world? should I say that their will be time no longuer?
(22 Nov '13, 18:23)
white tiger
or should I be the light that i can be and say use the time imparted to you wisely, let there be light, be the light that you can be, experience and enjoy. then would you say that I am unjust? or would you say that the children need to grow? the truth will set you free. if I let you live even if you are bad and imperfect and I let you better your self why would you say that I am unjust?
(22 Nov '13, 18:24)
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you see some of your brother and sister where dead and when they come out of their division they will become alive again and will have to live for ever with the shame of their error but they will know better to not do the same error again. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14epxvU8XIA
(22 Nov '13, 21:41)
white tiger
Thanks so much @white tiger. Beautiful parable. And it is reassuring that God loves all the same, because sometimes I feel that God just doesn't care and gives much more to those who don't try to live by His laws and forgets those who do.
(23 Nov '13, 15:57)
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@inner beauty some receive their gift in this world and some receive their gift in the next one. where do you need to store your treasure? "Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. http://biblehub.com/matthew/6-20.htm if you would know the gift of God.
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(23 Nov '13, 18:46)
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@White tiger The Inward Quest website as I see it is about manifesting good things in this present world. And people right here on this site and in response to my question (see below) have said that you get in life the things that you "deserve". These are apparently contradictory views. Is what you get in this life what you deserve or do you get your reward in the next world and still may suffer in this one?
(24 Nov '13, 13:47)
Inner Beauty
@inner beauty you asked:Is what you get in this life what you deserve or do you get your reward in the next world and still may suffer in this one? sometime you will suffer in this world because of the division when people are in error and do not want to see it. they will shame you to praise them self and get material stuff, they are in darkness and cannot admit it. some other time some people are not divided are in truth and will give you what you deserve like it should be. you see in the-
(24 Nov '13, 15:31)
white tiger
kingdom above there is no division every one is at peace in truth. "Or what man is there among you who, when his son asks for a loaf, will give him a stone?"Or if he asks for a fish, he will not give him a snake, will he? "If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give what is good to those who ask Him! "In everything, therefore, treat people the same way you want them to treat you, for this is the Law and the Prophets.
(24 Nov '13, 15:36)
white tiger
as for contradicting view, you have a right hand and a left hand both exist and work better in harmony, sometime things in this world are not in harmony because division and error lack of understanding, create that contradiction. make 4 people look at a house with 4 different wall colors and later ask them what was the color of the wall of the house? you will get 4 different answer -
(24 Nov '13, 15:48)
white tiger
since they will have look only at 1 wall. or someone will not remember and guest what it is. you might end up in the answer with extra color or with less color. each one have their point of view and their own choice, some will say as other people around them, some will say the opposite of someone else just to contradict. if you get 4 people that remember their colors as they really are and stick to the truth you will have the true answer,-
(24 Nov '13, 15:55)
white tiger
if they talk together they might influence each other and change the color they where going to answer. some people are easy to influence some are hard to influence. some seek to not make error and commit some and some seek to tell the truth and will not be understand. you can see it on the outside, but can you see it on the inside?
(24 Nov '13, 16:00)
white tiger
"If those who lead you say to you, 'See, the kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you. When you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is you who are the sons of the living father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."
(24 Nov '13, 16:14)
white tiger
for now you are divided and do not remember, one day when you overcome all those division and go above, you will be a wonder of wonder a pearl of great price. and you will know that you are a wonder from the very beginning. Let there be light, be that light that you can be, experience and enjoy.
(24 Nov '13, 16:59)
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@white tiger - thank you so much! :-) I've learnt alot from you. I especially enjoyed the Parable of the Prodigal son and what it had to say. I may make this a new thread in case anyone else wants to comment. Appreciate your time and input.
(24 Nov '13, 18:18)
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"And I feel angry that I can't control these external situations while God could control them if He chose to." This is key to your angst. In response, I point you to the words of Neville Goddard: If you find yourself miserable or helpless here, may I tell you that you are not condemned to the state by a deity outside of yourself, for everything that takes place in your world is but a movement within God. Everything - your misery, your helplessness, your joy, your sorrow - no matter what it is, comes into being by a movement within God, and he is not a deity outside yourself. You are not a helpless being, but the operant power of God. Seated as you are now, you can move without moving physically because your eternal body is all Imagination. Called Jesus Christ in scripture, you are God's power and wisdom. So if you find yourself in a place where you are miserable and feel helpless, it is because you either knowingly or unknowingly fell into that state, and not because of the condemnation of some deity outside of you. Every conceivable situation that you could ever think of exists now as a fact in God but cannot be made visible to you until you occupy it, for you are God's operant power. Everything in this world needs man as the agent to express it. Hate or love, joy or sorrow, all things require man to express it. We glorify or condemn the man, but he simply represents a state which God entered knowingly or unknowingly and remained there until the state was externalized. Everyone is free to choose the state he wishes to occupy. You imagined yourself into your present state. If you don't like it, you must imagine yourself out of it and into another. It is all a matter of movement. Try this experiment: give the good to the people you feel deserve it, in your imagination. Imagine their joy upon receiving this good. Evil and injustice must exist, otherwise the piano of life would be missing pieces of itself, making the music that can be played on it quite dull. If you abolish the number 7 because it is the wrong answer to 3 + 3, you also abolish the answer to 2 + 5. [http://www.nevillegoddardoutofthisworld.org/chapter-three][1] They claimed that we bore false witness if we imagined evil against another - that no matter how real our belief appears to be - how truly it conforms to the external reality to which it relates - if it does not make free the one of whom we hold the belief, it is untrue and therefore a false judgment. We are called upon to deny the evidence of our senses and to imagine as true of our neighbor that which makes him free. ―Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. To know the truth of our neighbor we must assume that he is already that which he desires to be. Any concept we hold of another that is short of his fulfilled desire will not make him free and therefore cannot be the truth.
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answered 22 Nov '13, 07:15 flowsurfer Thanks so much @flowsurfer. I will look up the chapter.
(22 Nov '13, 11:40)
Inner Beauty
ok have read a few chapters. Very helpful.
(22 Nov '13, 16:35)
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When you accept the fact that nothing happens to us what we do not deserve, the ground for getting angry begins to melt! Inner Beauty, I appreciate your concern! Yet, let me add something: Babies killed even when they are in the womb are 50 million a year (WHO says), and who is responsible? Parents who love more convenience than precious life! Who kills more than the terrorists and all wars? Parents! Cause precedes effect. If children suffer, there is a CAUSE that precedes their birth. According to one Indian school of thought, a soul decides its own birth place and family surroundings to reap the consequence of its action. Hence cause may be imperceptible to others, but not certainly to the soul in question!--TD Joseph answered 22 Nov '13, 06:15 T D Joseph Thanks for your comment, I see what you're trying to say but a lot of things happen to people who don't deserve them. e.g. babies killed before they're born, tsunami's etc... If we look at it this way then starving people in Africa have done something bad and happily comfortable rich people are good and deserve their wealth. I would agree more with a statement like "Nothing happens to us which cannot help us grow or is not for a purpose or for our better good."
(22 Nov '13, 11:37)
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I address this issue to God rather than universe. Theoretically:
Practically:
In a short, if you believe in something then it is as it should be as you believe in it, otherwise we have wrong beliefs or we did incorrectly in order to deal with what we believe. In essence: rather than blaming on what we believe, better try to fix properly what should be fixed, and see the result, then you may decide later. In other words: have you done it properly? If you consider you didn't do it properly, then your anger is improper. Therefore: How can you stop feeling angry with God? It's by applying what you believe properly, otherwise it would put us on unfair situation while we may judge improperly. Our anger it's because of our lack of understanding of specific situation. answered 02 Dec '13, 04:16 Seremonia |
"Perhaps I want God or the Universe to see justice in the same way I do. I'm sure this anger isn't helping me with manifestation of a better future. Any ideas on how to overcome this anger when you feel that God is being unjust?" Alright I hate to break it to you but.. god operates from "unconditional love" there is no injustice in that vibration.. in fact good/bad is only a illusionary game we play here on earth.. (and some other realities) Abraham taught me a very awesome theory many years ago.. it's called the "emotional guidance system" it's from their book "law of attraction" it has a tree on it ;) All you have to really do is listen to your feelings.. there telling you that you are lying to yourself.. simply by feeling that anger.. You have belief systems out of alignment with our truth.. and they are probably most about "right and wrong" as you were describing and your injustices your seeing.. If you give up the belief then you will no longer feel angry.. "How can you stop feeling angry with God/the Universe?" You can stop simply by finding the belief you are 'believing' and releasing it.. and you will change that energy from "anger"/negative to pure positive energy.. because ALL ENERGY is pure positive energy.. Several years ago I created some work sheets for troubleshooting beliefs based on the understanding that you know that your "emotional guidance system" tells you your truth and your willing to understand "all energy/emotion is pure positive energy" So here's a chart I created feel free to give it a try.. or engage further dialog if you wish? :) answered 28 Nov '13, 01:07 themaster |
Anger has its root in self-importance. Hence blaming others is an excuse. Rather go by the fact--everyone has the freedom to behave the way they do and the right to reap accordingly. Let them do--why should I get angry? Interestingly, one may get 100 mark in describing other's faults. Yet if asked, what is his faults, he may not be even aware of one! See he has wasted his life--he is conscious of other's faults over which he has no control; yet he is not aware of his faults over which he has control! answered 02 Dec '13, 00:38 T D Joseph @T D Joseph "Anger has its roots in self-destruction" not "self-importance". However 'importance' increases the potentialities of self and others.
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Angry with God? think of it before you question ;) It clearly means you are angry with all humanity, all living beings (living universe). And also it means that you are avoiding to receive help that manifest your happiness. So @Inner Beauty awake your beauty and always maintain cheerfulness on your face that brings help to you from all universe. Love and Enjoy. answered 02 Dec '13, 02:44 PERFECT GOOD 1
I was describing my experience with anger. when I feel more important than others, I feel angry when others disappoint me. When I feel all are equal, children of God (John 4:24; Mathew 23:9) anger keeps away from me. Self-destruction is the effect of anger (not root, Galatians 5:20), because in anger one acts mad, hence spoils relations, reputation ... etc. Hence it is listed as one of the three "gates" to Hell. (Gita 16:21)
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We want to create more importance to our own to keep away fear and feel more secure. Instead fear play its role and misdirect the path that leads to anger and disappointment. And who able to control fear will feel love and life:)
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@T D Joseph Thank you for letting me know about the verses of Gita 16:21.
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@Inner Beauty We all part of your question, there is no need to be much worried about, only the want is instead of 'acting smart' 'act lovely' all solution and real satisfaction run towards you.
(02 Dec '13, 22:21)
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Stop looking at injustice, and all forms of destruction and ugliness and focus on justice, and all forms of life and love instead. You feel angry because you keep looking at evil (what is unloving and unfair) rather than righteousness (what is loving and fair). Both will continue to happen, but whatever one you focuses on WILL GROW. Imagine the whole world focusing on injustice, they all complain and see injustice everywhere. Now, imagine the whole world focusing on Justice instead, with focus they can actually Practice what they teach to spread it. Complaining about injustice does not make it go away. Believing that there is still fair and loving people out there promoting equality and having confidence and exercising it - does. answered 03 Dec '13, 21:35 arpgme thank you. Something that I can definitely start to put into action straightaway.
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