This question is an offshoot of the comments under this answer here. I wish to acquire siddhis --- supernatural abilities. The Chi Energy Heal school has been mentioned many times in this forum by several experienced members. I joined the school but I didn't enjoy the programme, so I quit. I am happy to dedicate several years of my life to the practice, but I must enjoy the practice, which in this case I wasn't. I don't doubt that they are genuine - but they weren't right for me - at that time. I believe a yoga-based school would be more suitable for me than a Chinese school. I don't know of any online yoga schools that teach these abilities. I am aware of schools in northern India at the foot of the Himalayas but you have to commit two years in their residential school, which I can't do at the moment. Can any of you recommend such an online school based on your personal experiences (i.e. supernatural abilities YOU YOURSELF have acquired)? Thank you. PS. Can I please request that the answers be kept focused and pertinent to the question? Thanks. asked 13 Aug '15, 13:29 cod2
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I'm also unaware of an online yoga school that teaches siddhis. Unfortunately, despite what many seem to think, there is still a lot of stuff that is not available online and may never be. The closest to an "authentic" yoga course online I'm aware of is one by Dr. John Mumford aka Swami Anandakapila Saraswati, with his Om Kara Kriya course(s). I took the first one many years ago but I don't think it is what you are looking for since, in line with most yogis views siddhis as at best a distracting side-effect, there is no explicit focus on them (though some relatively minor ones can develop from the work, there are faster ways IME and I would imagine you'd be disappointed - at least I would be if that was my focus in that course). Another close but doesn't cut it option I'm aware of is the work which used to be at the site siddhashram.org but they seem to have changed the layout (and domain) since I last looked and I cannot find any of the sadhanas listed that they used to have (sadhanas for various siddhis included). It is primarily based on a magazine they send out (in Hindi but with certain sections in English). I have no personal experience with their work, but it was pointed out and recommended to me many years ago by a very able aghori I knew who vouched for their being genuine. Since it is tantric though, it by necessity requires the ability to pronounce mantra properly which, unless you're native in a sanskrit derived language, will require some minor linguistic training in phonetics. There's another option which I can personally vouch for, but which is neither an online course nor as far as a layperson would know, yogic in origin. That is the work "Initiation into Hermetics" by Franz Bardon. The book is essentially laid out in a course format and siddhis can be developed following it. Despite being written by a European it is actually very yogic in practice and I'm aware of many of the same techniques or slight variations of them being used in more esoteric teachings of yoga/tantra. So basically, I'm only aware of "close but no bacon" choices, sorry. answered 14 Aug '15, 00:00 Liam 2
Very helpful answer @Liam, thank you. I have been aware of Bardon for some time, it seems this is now the time to devote some time to his work. A book in a course format could actually work out better than a school because I prefer to work at my own pace.
(14 Aug '15, 02:44)
cod2
Actually @Liam, the course page of Dr John Mumford's website looks very interesting. Which course did you take, if you don't mind my asking? http://www.jonnmumfordconsult.com/courses2.html#OKK Also this: http://www.jonnmumfordconsult.com/WordPDF/VIS-MAGIC.pdf I also like the fact that courses are self-paced.
(14 Aug '15, 10:20)
cod2
You're welcome. I took the First Year Om Kara course which as far as I can tell was always his "foundation" course before you could take anything else (although it seems he has a couple new ones out that don't require it first now)
(16 Aug '15, 04:19)
Liam
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To answer your question yoga means union with god. siddhis are ability or skill developed in meditation when the meditator is getting to know him self. it is also said that siddhis should not be a goal it is view as hindrance to reach the final goal that is yoga. do you think that having more is less job or responsibility? and if you are to busy and follow your desire you loose the goal at hand. if I would compare this to a cup with water inside that as accumulated dirt and all kind of broken thing and poison as long as it is trap in the storm of the outside world the water is moving fast inside and you cannot see in that corrupt water but when the water is at rest not trap in the storm of the outside world the dirt go back down to the bottom of the cup and the worker can do is inner work and solve is division in truth. after all in what image or likeness have you been made? like it is said in the bible. But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. http://biblehub.com/matthew/6-33.htm look at Jesus did he follow course to get siddhis or to learn yoga or to be born again of water and the spirit. or did he go to the desert to meditate for 40 days? then you yourself should go to that desert a place where you are alone to do that inner cleaning to solve your division in truth. so that you can be born of water and can reflect the light of the spirit and being lead by the spirit to solve your last division so that the water and spirit can become one.The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit." http://biblehub.com/john/3-8.htm Let there be light, be the light that you can be, experience and enjoy. answered 14 Aug '15, 11:13 white tiger The question wasn't "Should I learn siddhis"?
(14 Aug '15, 11:15)
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@cod2 you can learn what ever you want to learn it is your choice I only gave you the answer to the question yoga school do not teach siddhis since it is a hindrance to the goal of yoga. they teach yoga siddhis is when you are stuck in a desire and develop some of those siddhis they view it as obstacle to reach the goal of yoga. what you should learn to start about yoga or any meditation practice is that the teacher can only show you the way it is for you to travel it and experience it.
(15 Aug '15, 14:37)
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@cod2 you can also go read the article follow the link: http://www.ananda.org/ask/the-danger-of-siddhis-yogic-powers/
(15 Aug '15, 14:42)
white tiger
You do realise that the skill of consciously applying the Law of Attraction is also a siddhi? It even has a name, prakamya siddhi. There you go. You are welcome.
(16 Aug '15, 04:39)
cod2
people have free will and are still growing. but for siddhis it becomes a desire that trap you a hindrance. Then again the monk, with the complete transcending of the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception, enters & remains in the cessation of perception & feeling. And, having seen [that] with discernment, his mental fermentations are completely ended. This monk is said to have blinded Mara.
(19 Aug '15, 17:48)
white tiger
Trackless, he has destroyed Mara's vision and has become invisible to the Evil One. Having crossed over, he is unattached in the world. Carefree he walks, carefree he stands, carefree he sits, carefree he lies down. Why is that? Because he has gone beyond the Evil One's range
(19 Aug '15, 17:49)
white tiger
to give you a simple understanding it is like someone doing a puzzle that person desire to see the completed image and seek to find it. and it is ok. but once the image is completed and there is nothing else to seek and no more desire or attachement or fear free from all hindrance then he can move to the next level. the flesh is born of flesh and the spirit is born of spirit. once that one have no division in him he become whole and when the two become one water and spirit with out-
(19 Aug '15, 17:57)
white tiger
fear he reach the second level and go above.
(19 Aug '15, 18:05)
white tiger
Thank you for your concern, but I can take it from here.
(20 Aug '15, 04:20)
cod2
@cod2 It is not a concern only giving you some water and light on the subject. for the rest it is your choice that you continue to search for siddhis teaching that is a gate that is very wide or you can search for a gate that is narrow and very few enter. it is your choice. let there be light, be the light that you can be, experience and enjoy.
(20 Aug '15, 20:52)
white tiger
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@cod2 - "more suitable for me than a Chinese school" - Just as a point of correction and to be fair to them, the Chi Energy School is about as Chinese as a Big Mac & Large Fries :) ...the founders are North American and operate the school from there. Also, none of the lessons so far have required me to learn Mandarin :)
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