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There are claims by people who killed, saying "voices in their head" told them to do so. If it is true, those voices might have convinced them that killing the other person is for the good. How will you know which advice is good or bad?
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Not sure whether the chosen-one would even be able to see this or see any of the other answers since he asked this question last year in March, but it probably all stems from your own state of being. If you are in a negative state and hear voices in your head to do things, there is an extremely high chance that the things you would be doing are negative if you do act upon those instructions. If you are in a positive state and hear voices in your head to do things, then most of these things you would be doing would probably be positive and uplifting ones. It is the same as when you feel angry, you only feel like beating and punching up someone, and it would be impossible for you to feel like you want to hug and embrace someone when you are angry. On the other hand, if you are in a positive mood and happy, it would also be close to impossible for you to feel like you want to beat someone up.
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If there is anything to "Jesus told me to.." or "God told me to..." I don't believe you will hear it as a voice in your head. Rather, it will be more like a feeling... a felt sense that something is correct, not a compulsion or a feeling of fear, anger or envy, but a sense that it is right, and a feeling of love. This should be your barometer.
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Here's is how you tell the good advice from the bad advice. IF the voice says: “You are great, you are strong, you are invincible, you are beautiful, you are loving, you are caring and you are amazing", IT'S GOOD ADVICE If the voice says "Kick the dog and kill the cat", ITS BAD...BAD...BAD ADVICE oh...on second thought, maybe the person with the voices in the head is an illuminati / CIA mind controlled slave with an assassination program alter that has been triggered with the right codes within the media or by their handler. But that last suggestion is such a stretch from reality it just couldn't be possible ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPjZ74Xt1RI like this traveller. experience and enjoy.
(21 Jan '12, 20:59)
white tiger
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I think it's a matter of the person's current perspective. If someone has not begun to awaken to who they really are, i.e. they're unconscious or unaware of their greater essence; then the voice is probably their own negative ego-self seeking attention in any way it can. Sometimes the disconnection is so great that the attention the ego-self wants or believes it needs can lead a person to kill another or even themselves. However, if a person has begun to awaken to the reality of who they really are, i.e. they're more consciously aware; then who can say that the voice isn't their own higher self offering guidance? If people can channel information through their voice, automatic writing and art etc; then why can't that same information be heard in someone's head? I prefer to remain skeptically open-minded to all possibilities; that way I'm allowing for any possibility... This is an excellent answer; but NOT to this particular question. The Chosen-One said voices and I do NOT think s/he is talking about hearing their own voice or listening to their own conflicting thoughts. The Chosen-One specifically asked "How will you know which advice is good or bad?" The previous statement was " those voices might have convinced them that killing the other person is for the good."
(20 Jan '12, 05:15)
ele
The Chosen-one wants to know which voice to listen to. This is very serious and I would like the Chosen-One to seek help before someone does get killed. I think he/she will rely on the answer which gets the most votes - so PEOPLE, please stop up voting this answer.
(20 Jan '12, 05:17)
ele
ele - 1. it's very simple. If you ever hear a voice telling you to kill someone, whether the voice is in your ear or in your head, then you know that the source is from a negative ego. 2. Chosen-one asked this question on March 12 2011, so I guess if any killing was to be done, it's already been done. 3. Have you ever looked into the idea of NOT telling other people what to do? Just an idea :)
(20 Jan '12, 05:32)
Eddie
Thanks for pointing out the date. If anyone has a similar question & uses a search engine; they may end up here, looking for the answer. IMO, a very serious question with possibly grave consequences was asked, which may have or still may happen. My answer/guidance/advice was not deadly and it will neither harm or kill another. My recommendation was for their own protection as well as the safety of others. Yes, I do know & I have thought about your "idea" (advice), more often than not-Thank You!
(20 Jan '12, 14:21)
ele
By the way - Chosen-one was asking for advice "how do you know which advice is good or bad?" Sooo, advice is what I gave, Eddie.... Peace...
(20 Jan '12, 14:28)
ele
Based upon the realization that each of us creates our own reality; I question whether there's really such a thing as an answer or guidance or advice that's deadly. Everyone has free will to decide and to choose for themselves. I've never encountered a user advising others NOT to vote my answer up. That's why I suggest that this comments thread is more about you than it's about the Q & A, ele... Peace...
(20 Jan '12, 21:21)
Eddie
Eddie, I hope you saw the post I wrote under the original question (after Barry's post). I am not going to spend any more energy trying to explain to you why I asked people to NOT up vote your answer. You are NOT hearing me and I don't know what else to say to make you understand. I know you are highly regarded here; as you have 8.8K votes. Even though it was NOT my intent, I offended you and I sincerely apologize. I don't agree with your last post; but feel no desire to debate it.
(20 Jan '12, 23:24)
ele
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No worries ele. For the record, I no longer get offended by anything. I hear you loud and clear. We have a difference of opinion and if you knew me better, you would know that I never tell people to do or not to do anything, although I may say what works for me. The voting system is used for people to show their support for a Q or A by either up voting, ignoring or even down voting. I'm all up for a lively debate within the comments section, and again, people can choose to like a comment or not.
(20 Jan '12, 23:49)
Eddie
As I said, the very fact that you feel the need to convince anyone of anything or make them understand says a lot about you.
(20 Jan '12, 23:50)
Eddie
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@Eddie Hi Eddie; I'm ele and I think we got off on the wrong foot. I have read a very small percentage of your answers; but the ones I've read are very insightful and I agree with most of what I've read. I can't recall the last time I've had more than 4 hrs sleep and 4 hrs is the total amt I've had the last 2 nites - sooo, in addition to shoveling snow most of the afternoon & nite (3 hrs just for the roof) I best go before I put my foot in my mouth again. Yay, that was my ego defending me.
(21 Jan '12, 03:16)
ele
hmm...I'm NOT sure if your last post is good or bad - but I will take it as good..
(21 Jan '12, 03:19)
ele
Welcome back ele :) Everything is fundamentally neutral, so we can always choose to get a positive meaning out of anything...
(21 Jan '12, 21:00)
Eddie
As for "everyone" having free will; perhaps; but NOT all have the ability to use it. The insane aren't able to reason, as well as some paranoid schizophrenics, others with psychotic disorders or altered brain chemistry whether drug induced or due to a mental disorder or perhaps some are born this way. What about children who are born with SEVERE mental retardation? What about people who are catatonic or in a coma? Babies aren't able to reason; so maybe free willis something we develop or NOT.
(22 Jan '12, 00:42)
ele
Thanks Eddie, I like it here - I realize I took "everyone having free will" out of context; but I'm not sure everyone does or at least they don't have the ability to use it.
(22 Jan '12, 00:50)
ele
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@Eddie and @ele- You two have both been of great service to me. Had you two not had this exchagement of honest energy, I never would have absorbed so much information and insights as I have done so in the period of a couple minutes just now. Awesomeness to both of you!
(24 Mar '13, 10:04)
Nikulas
@Nikulas - Thanks for your kind words, even if they're really for other versions of ele and me ;-)
(24 Mar '13, 10:26)
Eddie
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@Eddie Life is but a Dream . . . row, row, row your boat. @Nikulas Thanks. I finally, finally got over the trauma of it all.. Eddie was such a big sweetheart about it all. Gently down the Stream. Merrily, Merrily, Merrily.... @Eddie & Nik like attracts like in the asylum or Hanalei.
(25 Mar '13, 01:49)
ele
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I am sorry, but hearing voices in your head that tell you to do things is a sign of serious mental illness. I cannot emphasize this enough. Run, do not walk, to your local doctor, and tell him/her what is going on. There are many meds for this! Please! Listen to me! Peace, Jai @Jaianniah - yes Jai that can be the case ... peace :)
(19 Jan '12, 07:42)
blubird two
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jai do not judge other sometime it is not mental illness. and all the meds in the world will not help. but yes i agree that if you think you are mentally ill you should seek help from a doctor. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS1sGJgx8nY http://psychicvas.com/what_is_clairaudience.htm
(20 Jan '12, 14:40)
white tiger
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Please listen to Jai - you need to see a doctor as soon as possible - NOW - it's that urgent!! ALSO, call a relative, friend or loved one and tell them what is happening. The voices are NOT good - they are not angels or spiritual guides. Please see a doctor today and don't listen to the voices - good or bad - tell them to go away and get to a doctor. |
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Some people have a bad reference point of sanity. The problem is that they started out the blocks with a bad start point. So it is hard for them to determine where the boundaries are. Since they can't trust anyone, the ego is the only thing they can trust. And if this ego was subjected to abuse as a child, anything goes. The key is not taking any of it seriously. Trial and error comes into play, and questioning oneself should always be applied to gauge whether you are caught in a loop, or talking sense or nonsense. here is one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiKyWJRRjnU&feature=related the terroriste that think they are doing the work of god. You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye. http://bible.cc/matthew/7-5.htm
(22 Jan '12, 01:08)
white tiger
You equate your self with the extreme. I have to put parenthesis around choices. Action and consequences is all that is needed here. It is always in direct proportion. Sow/reap eh? What happened to this person? That is my point. Just because our interpretation is valid, does not make it right. Slow your roll sparky.
(23 Mar '13, 03:33)
The Knights Alchemy
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Hello Chosen-one ... if you hear voices in your head, this is coming from somewhere else, either outside or inside ... i suggest meditating to find the silence that is in all of us ... if they continue then just listen and try to understand the meaning ... these voices can be accompanied with visual images, but the most important is to perceive the feeling that all this produces, feeling is either good or bad ... center your energies on the good feelings ... it's really just learning how to manipulate thought energies. blubird |
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Hello Chosen-one Whenever i hesitate on what to do, i wait and observe. I play with it in my mind using trial and error. If i 'hear voices' in my head, i just listen, understand and absorb them. When i say 'hear voices' i mean feel energies and their meanings. However there is a fine line between 'hearing voices' and "hearing voices" ... insistent uncontrollable loud voices during waking hours that repeat themselves daily is another matter and implies perceptional imbalance of the visible and invisible worlds, in other words confusion between the outer world and the inner world and all that can entail. 1
me neither, by experience i find them enlightening, though many years ago i reached the fine line between light and dark so now i know my limits and keep well within them
(23 Mar '13, 04:44)
ru bis
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There must be remembered, there are absolute right and wrongs. Being told to kill anyone is murder and is wrong, unless it is to stop someone like Hitler or Binladen. If history could have been different, imagine this. We are in the 1930's Hitler is newly elected as ruler of Germany. The top brass in Israel give an order to someone in Israeli secret service to assassinate Hitler. He gets assassinated, the third riche is never known, WWII is never known, millions and millions of people never lose their lives. It goes on and on. Unfortunately in history good guys get assassinated, Lincoln, Kennedy, Reagon (nearly). Plus they usually get assassinated by someone that needed serious psychological help. 1
As much as I would like to, I can't vote your answer up because of your 'unless'. I did not cheer when Bin Laden was killed. I do understand the 'why'.
(22 Mar '13, 23:30)
ele
@ele No killing is anything to cheer about. It is all sad, at most it is relief for the victims. It brings an end to genocide and terrorism. It is sad it has to come in that way sometimes to bring peace.
(23 Mar '13, 03:20)
Wade Casaldi
http://goo.gl/QAQuB think again
(23 Mar '13, 03:40)
ursixx
Whoa @Wade a minus 1. Was not me. You can always edit your answer. For some of the victims, they say it was a relief... I don't think it put a dent in terrorism & I don't see any peace coming from this either. @ursixx thanks, I had my first nightmare in a very long time this morning. Bless ya, dear!
(23 Mar '13, 04:39)
ele
@Wade Casaldi - From a purely personal perspective, this is interesting for me; it is unlikely, given your suggested scenario, that my parents would have ever met. Hmmm. This also assumes that dying is a bad thing: http://www.inwardquest.com/questions/9018/why-did-the-victims-of-genocide-in-world-war-2-allow-themselves-to-be-killed/9023 Don't get me wrong - The subject of Hitler and many things WWII related can be difficult, even painful to me. Still, facinating thoughts. :)
(23 Mar '13, 13:34)
Grace
yes @Grace me too, my parents lived through the blitz http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blitz my dad was a ambulance soldier, he picked up the pieces of human bodies after a bomb raid. peace
(23 Mar '13, 13:46)
ru bis
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@ursixx this video is stunning! I can see why BBC made it, it had to be made impartially. What is shocking is how one man can affect so many people in a huge chain reaction that goes on maybe forever. It gives a new perspective on the butterfly affect! @ele thanks, yes you might be right. If we watch ursixx BBC video it does seem like nothing really changes for the better. There are too many people affected to really change anything.
(23 Mar '13, 14:02)
Wade Casaldi
@ru bis - Yes, mine lived through it too. I have often marveled at how a relatively short period of history has so colored my thoughts all my life - seeing it through the eyes of those I love most. Mom was a little girl evacuated to the country, but kept running away back home. :) She told of not wanting to get to know the other kids at school too well. Dad was older, and drove a tank. Only shared a handful of stories. D-Day was not one of those. I wish I'd asked them more questions.
(23 Mar '13, 14:06)
Grace
@Grace yes a relatively short period of time but packed with blood, death, sweat, fear, anger, aggression, courage, tally-ho, fraternity and love :)
(23 Mar '13, 14:23)
ru bis
@Grace you present an interesting thought. My mother comes from Pensylvania Dutch (German) descent. I believe (Pennsylvania Dutch)Germans were early to America before WWII. I could be wrong, maybe I wouldn't exist either? Strange... That would make all killing wrong, no exceptions. But then going to war even to defend yourself or country would as well be considered wrong. This is quite a paradox for a spiritual, guy that teaches karate!
(23 Mar '13, 14:34)
Wade Casaldi
@ru bis I can only imagine what your Dad saw. British not French? My uncle was an army medic in the European campaign & finished his 'tour' by being one of first at Nordheim. He took hundreds of B & W photo's of unspeakable atrocities. My Dad was an army platoon T/Sgt in Patton's Red Diamond Div (infantry; foot soldiers). He received the prestigious Croix de Guerre from Le General de Gaulle for the Campagnes pour la liberation de la France (1944-1945).
(24 Mar '13, 01:59)
ele
My Dad never shared the horrors of war. He only spoke of the beauty of the countryside, the people, architecture, the seas, the wines. He was a gifted story teller. He remembered the hell of war in a humorous way, whether freezing in a foxhole, a deer they shot & the delicious meal the Chinese mess SGT cooked up after many weeks on K rations ( who went on to open a 5 star restaurant on the W coast) or raiding a wine cellar, which seemed to be a reoccurring theme whether in France or ..
(24 Mar '13, 01:59)
ele
... Germany. So if your family was missing wine; it was my Dad - sorry, he really enjoyed the French wines & France for that matter. He had numerous awards, honors & purple hearts. No one ever died in his stories. He downplayed his acts of heroism; just funny little accidents. @Grace My Dad spent time in Iceland, England, France & Germany. He shared many beautiful stories of England. Both sides of my family have been here for generations. My uncle the medic, drank.
(24 Mar '13, 02:07)
ele
My Dad put his own spin on the war & only remembered the best. My 2 uncles who were in the Pacific Theater, never spoke of the war. My Dad loved it when he copped a ride on a tank. Maybe our Dad's met. Nice to think that way. No D Day stories either. I wish I would have paid more attention; had I only known he'd only be around such a short period in my life. Yes, we both should have asked more questions.
(24 Mar '13, 02:09)
ele
@ele yes british, at the end of the war his legs stopped functioning, "nervous exhaustion" he spent a month doing a sleep cure at hospital. However he joked about it, he said after a while you get used to it and don't notice the danger, it becomes 'normal'
(24 Mar '13, 02:13)
ru bis
@ele yes i like to think that our dads did meet during ww2, and had a fun time with the wine, women and song.
(24 Mar '13, 07:39)
ru bis
@ru bis - hey, fact is stranger than fiction. If nothing else; your dad was prob patching up mine; sharing wine, song & laughter. "women" - No, my dad was a married man. I came into their lives late.
(24 Mar '13, 08:01)
ele
@ele yes that's what i meant wine, song and laughter(and maybe a little bit more when no one's looking lol)
(24 Mar '13, 09:26)
ru bis
@Wade Casaldi - Yes, it just keeps getting curiouser and curiouser, futher down that rabbit hole. For me, I have had to make my peace with the knowledge that I don't know the answer - though I suspect there is no answer. :) I think that dying feels bad to the people who live on without you, because of their preference for your company in this life. Or because of the potential life they imagined for you; neither of those may have anything to do with that soul's own purpose, I suppose.
(24 Mar '13, 10:27)
Grace
@ele, yes I too was a late addition to my parents' lives. Dad told a story of driving a tank across enemy lines in France. The great gun on top of the tank jambed and they could not fire at the shadowy figures that were seen crossing the road ahead and gathering to hide in the snowy shadows. They thought they were in for it, but it turned out to be Allies, trying to sneek across as well. The gun worked just fine after that, no problems. Maybe your dad or @ru bis'? Sweet thought. :)
(24 Mar '13, 10:50)
Grace
@ele seems like a case of pure magic to me, the allies were shielded by something
(24 Mar '13, 11:30)
ru bis
@Grace Yes, sweet thought - reminds me of sweet cravings. I think both our fathers were a bit psychic & why they survived. My Dad & his buddy were extra hungry one night & wanted a late night snack. They climbed out of their foxhole & went back to the mess tent to get something else to eat. When they went back to their foxhole, they found it gone or a much bigger hole in its place. I can only imagine their relief.
(25 Mar '13, 01:29)
ele
@ru bis actually it was a long standing joke between my parents. My Dad was a very handsome fella. I won't be surprised if a sibling from France or England comes calling. Not to late. Yes, magical. BTW, your DAD had the crappiest job of all. Not sure how you ever get over something like that.
(25 Mar '13, 01:29)
ele
@ele - Another wonderful story! Now you have me thinking about that - why our dads lived, and so many did not, under the same circumstances. It was more than survival of the fittest, I agree. It sure wasn't about good guys and bad guys. Did everyone who lived have a bit of the Shine on them? I wonder what would be different about your vibration in combat from the one next to you who didn't make it? They were all scared witless, so fearlessness wouldn't do it...
(25 Mar '13, 02:23)
Grace
@ele i think he absorbed the vibrations and transmitted them to me, that could explain why sometimes in lucid dreaming i hear and feel the scream of black war planes, gives me the shivers ... as in the mick jagger song " i was born in a cross-fire hurricane"
(25 Mar '13, 03:20)
ru bis
@Grace yes, my dad told many stories such as we just shared.. Seems like he was always escaping death due to his own higher source. I don't have a normal fear & flight response. My response is 100% psychic. I melt. I can not tell you the number of times my dad saved my life. I'm talking from certain death. He just knew & would just appear in the nick of time or look back at the right moment. Same with other men in my earlier life. Luckily, I don't require saving any more. I couldn't react to
(25 Mar '13, 03:29)
ele
to save myself; but I can react to save another, and I have & that too, was/is totally a psychic connection. I had strange vibrations when I was young - no life & death situations for me any longer. One of the saddest stories my mom told me was about a buddy of my dad's. He was killed by friendly fire. Explain that?
(25 Mar '13, 03:35)
ele
@ru bis I believe you. That sounds scary. Sure they aren't more than shivers? I'm not sure if I would go there. Brave soul. You wouldn't believe the vibrations I picked up even before I was born & yes, unfortunately they still affect me at times - takes my breath away.
(25 Mar '13, 03:40)
ele
@ele "ours is not to reason why, ours is but to do and die" that was one of the favorite sayings of my mum :)
(25 Mar '13, 03:42)
ru bis
@ru Hurricane - cyclone - whirlwind - fits & sinc You must see the planes too. Sorry, I didn't see the link in my email. You would be amazed how many convo's I'm juggling at this time of the morning. Porn bus is good - No! You wouldn't believe how many people believe me cause my real voice is that deep throaty bedroom type voice. People think I have the coolest work & are so disappointed when I tell them I'm 'joking' or not. I do a bit of public speaking; so I've learned to do voices.
(25 Mar '13, 04:39)
ele
@ru Your mum sounds like a wise lady & pretty darn cool. The prior comment was a JOKE!! I don't have a 900 number. BTW - awesome song.
(25 Mar '13, 04:40)
ele
@ele yes she was a very wise lady, she went to heaven a long time ago, back in 1977, i suppose she must know blubird :)
(25 Mar '13, 04:49)
ru bis
@ru I knew both your parents were gone. You were still a baby back in 77. I'm sure she is greatly missed.. Hope your dad was around a bit longer. I hope she knows blu. I'll ask him if I see him.
(25 Mar '13, 04:55)
ele
yes it broke my heart the day she died ... dad's been gone since 1992, in heaven i'm sure that my mum and dad and blu get along well :)
(25 Mar '13, 05:03)
ru bis
@ru That's the way I felt when my Dad died plus shock & guilt which lasted years. I was there & thought I should have/could have stopped it. I know your mum was in & out of your life. I cannot even imagine what that was like. My Dad was always there until he wasn't. I think it would have been much harder had it been my mom; even tho I was very close to my dad. We all need our moms or mums.
(25 Mar '13, 05:16)
ele
@ele yes i'm often haunted by middle age battles, sword fighting, i remember being killed in a battle, and trampled on by horses, but i wasn't dead; was it real or was is just my imagination?
(25 Mar '13, 05:21)
ru bis
@ele nowadays i can contact anyone of them at will, mum dad, blubird(lol), my ex etc. :)
(25 Mar '13, 05:24)
ru bis
@ru sounds like a past life or two. I've done a bit of past life regression also. I'm not surprised you were a knight is shiny armor in a past life. Very Fitting! Trampled by horses & not dead - means much pain either in this life or a past. I didn't realize you were a widower. Sorry; sucks. Many losses. Sortof sounds kinda familiar. Wow at will? Impressive. I can't do this. Well, I can talk; but they don't talk back. I'm sure this is very comforting. Time hasn't made any difference?
(25 Mar '13, 05:41)
ele
@ru My loved ones only appear in dreams. I was NOT talking about channeling me. It's the same concept as your stockbroker idea. Just faster.
(25 Mar '13, 05:42)
ele
So many different meanings.. Honalee http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Honalee Who'd of thunk it. i was born in a cross-fire hurricane" http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=506 Or thunk this?
(25 Mar '13, 06:31)
ele
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yes you can get influence but you make the choice no one else!
For information, Chosen-one originally posted this as a comment to another question last year instead of posting it as a new question at the time. With the new IQ software, we are able to convert these previously-hidden "questions" into questions in their own right. This was not possible with the previous IQ software. It is not clear whether Chosen-one is still active on IQ.
I ONLY just read Barry Allen's comment. As I was reflecting on Eddie's last comment to me - I decided to reread this thread. I will delete the part of my comment (which I wrote an hour before Barry Allen posted this information) which he found offensive. It was NEVER my intention to offend or insult and had I known this was NOT a cry for help; I would never have asked anyone to NOT vote up his answer.
OK - WHY don't I have an option to edit the 2nd comment I made to Eddie's answer? I would like to delete the last 8 words of my post. There is a delete comment button and 2 covert comment to question buttons - but NO edit button.
@ele, if something is not working as it should, please report it on IQ Meta for investigation: http://meta.inwardquest.com
@ele It could be your browser. I have noticed this myself.
But I found that when I switched to a different browser it was there.
Opera on my cell phone sometimes does that. Miren browser doesn't seem to, but it doesn't edit as well as Opera.
@Wade Casaldi Opera & Chrome work better than IE or Firefox. I should have contacted META; sorry @Eddie. It's still there. Everyone can see I was wrong & how Barry tricked a poor newbie. lol! I still get embarrassed reading this; certainly put my foot in it. Some days I cannot, no matter what I do, vote & sometimes comments don't open. It doesn't seem to matter if I'm using satellite or my mobile hot spot.