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Over the past couple of months, I've been steadily working my way through the teachings of The Ninth Dimensional Pleiadian Collective, channelled by Wendy Kennedy. If a particular set of teachings catches my interest, I like to understand it as deeply as I can, to discover what within it attracted my attention, before accepting it or dismissing it. The Ninth Dimensional Pleiadian Collective (TNDPC) is a collective of a couple of thousand entities, I believe, that speak as one and teach that Earth is a giant experiment intended to see what happens when a planet moves from third density to fourth density (and soon after that, to fifth density) with conscious beings existing on it. TNDPC say that this transition has been achieved previously with conscious beings and uninhabited planets separately, but never the two together. Apparently, Earth is the focal point for much attention throughout the Universe right now because there is so much happening vibrationally in such a concentrated time/space location. They also say that Earth consists of a melting pot of many extra-terrestrial civilizations, all of whom have contributed members of their species (both DNA-wise and incarnation-wise), into one concentrated place as a way of generating solutions to broader galactic conflicts and issues. Because those who incarnate on Earth have a huge emotional range, compared to other races, the issues become magnified and creative solutions come more quickly. So, for example, if someone's solution to a particular issue (whether group-based or personal-based) that arises on Earth works here then that information is immediately more broadly available throughout the universe - and those solutions benefit all. The implication of this is that even just finding a way of integrating a minor (by your standards) issue in your life can have galactic implications. They say that the bigger game is about integration of consciousness and life experience. In Abraham-speak, I would translate that as finding ways to "get into the Vortex" and that idea kind of makes sense to me in the way that Abraham always say that the Universe (Earth?) was geared up to generate never-ending desire. TNDPC also say that Atlantis was a previous transition experiment that failed but many who were incarnated then are now incarnated again to give it another try :) They also say that this time, the experiment is going to be a success and that 2012 marks that turning point. I know I'm probably not doing justice, in this quick summary, to the many hours of recordings I've listened to regarding these teachings - it's just to give you a broad idea. I guess if you are interested, you could always find some TNDPC material on either Wendy Kennedy's site or elsewhere on the internet. The ideas are all quite interesting and thought-provoking, and seem (to me, at least) to complement some of the information coming from other channelled entities such as Abraham (who have said many times that all eyes in the Universe are now on Earth), Bashar and even our very own TReb Bor yit-NE on Inward Quest, channelled by Rob. So, I thought I would throw this idea out to the guys and gals in IQ and see what your thoughts are. Do you think Earth is a giant experiment in density-transition, co-ordinated by a multitude of extra-terrestrial races? Also, does anyone know of any other channelled teachings, not already mentioned, that express similar ideas? I like to compare and contrast information from different sources to try to get a better overview... it's a bit like reading several different newspapers to get a more unbiased version of events.
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my source says that the reason that all eyes are on us is because we are a very interesting race, it is not un- common or in fact it is said that all races are guided, and monitored through their ascensions from higher density beings, BUT the EXACT reason that we are being watched to this extent by so many races is because when a race is this far along in the 3rd density. It is very odd that we are so disconnected to our planet and the rest of the cosmos, yes it is also true that they watch us because we are genetically enhanced and they are interested to see us. Interesting. Thank you, Rob
(14 Apr '11, 22:41)
Stingray
thank you stingray!
(14 Apr '11, 22:41)
TReb Bor yit-NE
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Absolutely. Though I have no channeled verification of this, I believe that our interaction with ET's is a lot more complicated than it seems. I think that it is not a classical example of a controlled experiment but we are an inhabited planet set by "other" beings. Meaning that we were placed here to inhabit earth and see what we can do even though they can influence our outcome tey do not. I truly believe I was abducted but do not know how to communicate with them as much now that I am older. Yes, TNDPC say that there is a collective agreement not to interfere with how events on Earth unfold. But that agreement has not been adhered to by some of the more aggressive races e.g. Reptilians, Greys etc
(14 Apr '11, 15:10)
Stingray
I met the shorter stockier, light blue/grey and the taller thinner lanky very light colored ones with the metal finger.
(14 Apr '11, 15:20)
you
at the same time.
(14 Apr '11, 15:20)
you
The taller are colder more mechanical than organic, i think that is why his finger turned metallic. The shorter thicker ones are more organic and much warmer, more relate-able to us.
(14 Apr '11, 15:39)
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TNDPC say that all "abductions" are agreements made prior to incarnating as a kind of service to that species. They say that they appear to be abductions because, after incarnating, one forgets the agreement that was made
(14 Apr '11, 16:43)
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In my last dream/coincidence I was not afraid and felt I knew if some sort of deal. We actually hugged on my arrival ( with the short one the tall one was more of a Dr. The short one was much more friendly and I asked them to make sure my friend would not remember for we were both there. But I had been before a few times so at this point I was very comfortable.
(14 Apr '11, 17:38)
you
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all existence/life is on an evolutionary path and is cyclic, not an experiment. Actually, there is no element of lack of responsibility in those particular ideas. In fact, it is the other way around. According to TNDPC, even the smallest issues you resolve in your life can have galactic implications so your responsibility to integrate those issues in your life is more, not less
(15 Apr '11, 06:14)
Stingray
I agree with you Fred except for the fact that I do believe we create the world.
(15 Apr '11, 16:32)
Michaela
michaela, the material world or the life we make of/in it. the connectedness just seems to grow out of the energy from searching
(16 Apr '11, 00:37)
fred
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I don't know whether the Earth is just actually a huge experiment or not, but it seems like we will all be able to know more once the year 2012 comes (which is just less than a year away). But based on the text read on Floating-world.org, it doesn't seem that way... it's more like the extra-terrestials want to help us to ascend to the next dimension in order to help themselves too. P.S One thing I don't get is why must most channellers charge an amount of price for their work? Shouldn't they try to make it free for the masses if they have good intentions (like Rob on this site) ? 1
why thank u 4 that comment, it is a $ game with many people, i like basher i have seen a few of his vods and i know he IS legit BUT, when i asked him to verify my source i went to set up a private session with him and he wanted over 1,200 $ and to pay for the hotel of his choice and i couldnt record it, all i wanted was verifycation when i first met my source , any way i know people have to make a living BUT making a living and making a KILLING are 2 diffrent things in my eyes LOL :-) love n light n ty 4 ur great love !
(15 Apr '11, 01:46)
TReb Bor yit-NE
yeah thats what I dont get... a reasonable price would be to pay maybe for his air ticket & a decent hotel (not neccesarily one of his choice).. why would they need more money than that if what they are channeling is true? :)
(15 Apr '11, 11:48)
kakaboo
hell even if they don't charge high prices as long as they give out their knowledge for free I'm sure someone will donate to them on a regular basis... just like this site (inwardquest and Psitek)
(15 Apr '11, 11:49)
kakaboo
Regarding any successful, busy, channel, we have no idea how many requests from people just starting out they get. Or from people who may believe they're channels, who really are not and thus time is misspent by both parties. And imagine that from a higher perspective an extremely experienced channel knew that they were not part of your path or that it's in your own best interest to realize that you have full power to solve your own financial issues. Maybe they even helped you by bringing your own issue of lack to the surface within you.
(16 Apr '11, 01:21)
Eddie
Money, like everything else is a vibration, so why not just tune in to that and move beyond any perceived lack and be happy to pay whatever amount for someone’s time? I always give information for free, but if personal interaction is required I charge for my time. I wrote to Neale Donald Walsch once asking for confirmation of something, and never received a reply. That in itself helped me to trust myself more :)
(16 Apr '11, 01:22)
Eddie
I understand where you are coming from Eddie, but I am not talking mainly about random strangers emailing/seeking them for help.. but rather they selling their chanelling recordings for a high price etc. And by your reasoning that money like everything else is a vibration - we should ask ourselves then why do these channelers channel in the first place? What is their real purpose? To earn more money or to really help mankind? Which is why whenever I see a channeler charging high prices it somehow makes me feel that it's fake to some extent..
(16 Apr '11, 05:24)
kakaboo
@kakaboo, nobody does anything unless there's something in it for him. The variance in prices might be just this - because the world is made of cause and effect scenario, if you do something it is the effect of a cause within you. Someone who's cause is of spiritual nature, may channel for free. Because he's not looking to fill in monetary voids within himself. He other channeler charges a lot of money, then he's filling other than spiritual voids. So much for the differences in price. ;-)
(24 Jul '12, 06:01)
CalonLan
But price is not true reflection of truthfulness of the product offered to us. The inner intentions of the one who offers it to us would be true reflection of the product. But we can't see those intentions, unless we learn how are realities created and from our meetings with the person we are able to conclude the intentions as they will show throughout the way of his life.
(24 Jul '12, 06:05)
CalonLan
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Wow! When I first read your question Stingray.. I laughed. Not because your question was funny or incredulous but because a few short years ago I would have thought so but now I'm coming to believe that anything is possible... progress :)) *Is Earth a giant extra-terrestrial 'experiment'? * I don't have a clue but one thing that I do know that is ringing more and more true for me is that everything has to exist inside me first before I can perceive it on the outside. Right now I have created you so that you asked this question and I have an opportunity to answer it. Not too sure if I want to buy into the fact that we're part of an 'experiment'... for me that just has connotations of being used in some way and I don't think that's really what's happening... unless freewill really is an illusion of the ego ( but that's another question). I do think that there are probably different levels or dimensions beyond this physical realm whether we choose to believe that they're inhabited by extra- terrestrials, guides, angels etc. is all down to our own individual choice and I have a feeling what we choose to believe will be exactly what we experience. To think that we're the only inhabited planet in the galaxy would be pretty small minded. " They say that the bigger game is about integration of consciousness and life experience " .... Funnily enough you interpret this as "getting into the Vortex" whereas I interpret it as learning from those life experiences and integrating them as part of our being and part of the Whole. Yes, I hear you... back to that again lol. But it seems that if our whole journey is about ascending and progressing through these different dimensions then to me it also appears that we can only do this by learning and growing and becoming aware of those areas in which we need to do so. 2
The freewill dilemma is an interesting one. It was once pointed out to me that we are only free to choose from the choices we are given - a thought-provoking twist, perhaps? And Abraham are constantly pushing us to feel good which is just alignment with our broader self...so we're really only free to align or not align and, ultimately, we're all going to align even if it takes physical death to achieve it. So perhaps our freewill is not as free as we think? :) Regarding learning, notice how I've carefully managed to avoid using the word lesson for months now ;)
(15 Apr '11, 17:03)
Stingray
...but I'm going to have to drop in an anti-lesson comment...sorry, it's been a while and I can't resist it :) TNDPC are quite adamant that ascending is not going from lower to higher in the limited earthly way. It's about shifting perspective. And the 3D perspective is one of the most useful because it creates the illusion of separation from source and all that experience that comes with it. All the channelled beings I have come across (that I trust) state that Earth is a masterclass - the implication not being that we are lesser and need to learn something but that we are masters..
(15 Apr '11, 17:09)
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...who are exercising our talents. I know you're going to disagree (as usual) but I still maintain that we come here for the fun of the experience, like going on vacation, and not because we need to learn something more. When one goes on vacation, it is true that you do learn something about the place you visit but I think that is more of an exploration type of learning rather than a you-need-to-shape-up type of learning...it's about feeding the universe with new experiences, I guess. Anyway, that marks the end of my anti-lesson lesson for today :)
(15 Apr '11, 17:16)
Stingray
I think you've pretty much got the freewill thing spot on from where I'm coming from... I think once we begin to become aware of and align with our higher perspective, we really don't have freewill anymore because it simply doesn't feel good when we're not making the choice that is in alignment with that higher self... hence it's an illusion of the ego. I think you really might have come up with a compromise through that word 'exploration'. Although I'd probably phrase it that I'm here for an 'expansive' ( not you-need-to-shapeup) type of learning through exploration. Thank you :))
(15 Apr '11, 17:55)
Michaela
Yes, I can probably live with either exploration or expansion as a compromise. :) Thank you, Michaela :)
(15 Apr '11, 22:29)
Stingray
Yo guys, I didn't realize that 'free-will' was an issue. From where I am I have a choice in every moment and I choose to choose 'whatever' feels best for me, because I believe that that choice serves me best. So I guess the other choice never really existed for me. However, we're free to make the choice that doesn't feel good and thus will not serve us, but we have 'free-will' to choose it anyway. Am I missing something? :)
(16 Apr '11, 01:37)
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@Eddie - I agree with you. We are free to make choices that don't make us feel good. But isn't feeling good what drives everyone anyway? http://www.inwardquest.com/questions/12144#12164 So, sooner or later, we're going to come back to seeking that alignment even if we "pinch ourselves off from Source for a while" (Abraham's words). I think the real freedom we have is in "deciphering contrast" and make a joint higher/lower self decision about what that contrast means to us. Beyond that, it does seem we are rather puppets of the Higher Self
(16 Apr '11, 06:23)
Stingray
@Eddie - Not an issue at all Eddie. Yes we do have a choice in every moment..however, as Stingray said , when we do come more into alignment with our higher self it seems that the only choice in any given moment has to be in alignment with that higher perspective. To choose otherwise simply doesn't feel so good :)
(16 Apr '11, 23:12)
Michaela
well about free will if you have choice to go on left or right path is it the only choice you have? or you can go middle through the forest? if you know the left and the right path maybe to try the forest is not a so bad idee! you might even find more things in the forest then traveling on path that where maed before!
(30 Apr '11, 05:53)
white tiger
as for transcendence and enlightement you can't say to someone go left or right they need to make that in work them self! you can only give pointer!
(30 Apr '11, 05:55)
white tiger
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My thoughts went to Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy. It is kind of based on a similar theory. Funnily enough, that was the first thing I thought of too. I find many mystical/spiritual undercurrents in Douglas Adams' work
(15 Apr '11, 21:35)
Stingray
I dont understand, what has 42 got to do with this question?
(16 Apr '11, 05:30)
kakaboo
@Kakaboo - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Answer_to_the_Ultimate_Question_of_Life,_the_Universe,_and_Everything
(16 Apr '11, 15:04)
Stingray
@Kakaboo DON'T PANIC. Read the book and have a good time. ;)
(16 Apr '11, 16:08)
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Stingray, you said: So, for example, if someone's solution to a particular issue (whether group-based or personal-based) that arises on Earth works here then that information is immediately more broadly available throughout the universe - and those solutions benefit all. The implication of this is that even just finding a way of integrating a minor (by your standards) issue in your life can have galactic implications. This really goes right along with what I experienced in my Mind of God vision. I saw prayers and thoughts going out along the gossamer threads connecting everything, and realized that a chance thought could race across the galaxy in the blink of an eye. The implications, as you say, Stingray, are tremendous. I know I have been on a sort of "trip" about what happened to me, but the vision was so powerful! I really, really wish I could show everyone exactly what prayers can do, for example. A prayer appeared as an burst of energy along the thread, both traveling and creating as it went along, interconnecting with all prayers, with all beings concerned, with God Himself. We cannot excape this "Mind"- we are part of it! Thanks for posting your "book report"! I found it fascinating, and feel it goes along with what I experienced in my vision. Thank you! Blessings, Jai |
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well i think ufo and extraterrestrial exist! but i think they are just like us trying to make there progression they could be at lower or higher level then us! as for did they create experiment on earth if they are angel they might have done a part in it! but every part of the universe is created in god and by god! then your going to say you believe in ufo and i will answer no i don't believe i experiance! i have seen some light in the sky that are ufo! unidentified flying object! 5 light of different color turning around over the cloud! and another time 1 cloud in the sky moving against the wind and flashing with thunder bolt coming out of it but not reaching earth and making no noise!
(30 Apr '11, 06:07)
white tiger
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Yes, extra-terrestrials have been with the Earth and working with humans for a while. Watch this episode of Ancient Aliens if you want to check out the evidence. Love Light 1
@Brian Nice video link - haven't watched it all but will do when have time but appreciate you posting it. Very interesting. My mind is opening up all the the time to stuff that six months ago I would have considered very fringe indeed - strange and interesting times we are living in.
(16 Sep '12, 09:08)
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I do not feel good about channelings. I believe the Holy Bible and it teaches that Satan can dressup a lie in enough truth to disguise it as truth. I believe that our connection to God gives us insight if we look. Even quantum physics and Bruce Lipton and Dr. Emoto have given us scientific insight to the spiritual world. The best trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he did not exist. (?)
(15 Apr '11, 19:49)
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Nice answer, Stingray and I agree to disagree on this subject because I just think channeling is just a new word for a very old word like possession. In other words someone else taking over your body while you know they care not. A very dangerous position to be in for how would you get them out if they took full controll for a day?
(16 Apr '11, 02:48)
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I don't think that channeled information is reliable. It is easy to confuse information you are actually receiving with your own imaginations. I also was once fascinated by a similar theory (precisely by the "Teachings of Ra") but soon after I realized that it was not true. It is fascinating as it tells us that in our lifetimes we can see amazing things, like transition to the 4th density, but I don't think it is true. I cannot prove that what I believe in now is true, but I guess everyone choose what they want to put faith in. The way of faith is the only way to obtain information about spiritual matters as science discards those phenomena. I guess the only thing we can do is wait and observe what will the 2012 year bring. If I were to bet, I would say that the "Teachings of Ra" and David Wilcock's teachings (http://www.divinecosmos.com/) will ultimately prove wrong, albeit of good intentions. |
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I have always knew that we are an experiment of some sort.. it dosent make me feel any less "special".. just because of some basic facts.. one.. we all have a bar code.. it is on our hands.. our finger prints are unique and mine will never be like anyone elses, wich leads me to belive someone is keeping track like some sort of product.. and two our retina.. and I can go on.. it is just my opinion, I used to say it was comon sense but every ones opinion is important this is just mine.. when i was on the path to awakening, when I was in a process of starting to see things from another dimension and see energy, I felt for days like a LAB RAT, I felt literaly a pull and a press in my crown area in my head.. also on my forehead.. hands.. feet.. in my chest.. and a whole spectrum of emotions from suicide thoughts to the biggest enlightment and happiness.. but most of all I did for the first time feel like a lab rat, I knew that what was happining and still is was because someone decided to alter my perception, now I have taken control over it.. but yes I agree I do think we are the coolest, most amazing and beautiful experiment of all time.. even with our bad things.. I have died and been reborn many times in this phisical body, I have been the badest person on earth and right now I am happy a nice person and positive and thats what makes us so interesting and special.. you can be what you want and do what you want (free will), and if we are some experiment thank you aliens or whatever it has been a very interesting ride :) PS: I love this forum.. have a good week!.. |
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There has been some amazing channeled extra-terrestrial information passed on to this planet as a forerunner of First Contact. The information is grounded on the planet in this way because it is less confrontive than facing a real ET. The true information is self empowering and designed to raise consciousness. For tons of this kind of information check out www.etyoga.com and use your discernment. ET Yoga was a very popular world wide radio show on BBS and at the leading edge of information on the planet. |
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An 'extraterrestrial experiment'? Seems to me that our earth is a vacation spot for non-physical beings who want to come enjoy physical manifestation and the sensations that go with this earth plane by using physical sensory organs. To do this, they inhabit a body that somehow becomes conscious of their presence and then begins to recognize that this 'body' is part spirit and begins to integrate spirit and matter realizing the oneness of this creation, first with their inner 'Soul' and through this realization, their oneness with the Universal Mind. @Dollar Bill What are these non-physical beings and where do they come from? Are they angels, demons, other dimentional beings, beings from other planets?
(30 Mar '12, 09:20)
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@fairy Princess - You and me and the other people here. Source manifesting as people to be able to experience the world of duality, here on earth. Maybe Source said, "I would like to be able to experience the feeling of sun on my face." If Source is non-physical, how can It experience duality except through us as physical beings?
(30 Mar '12, 12:37)
Dollar Bill
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Be interested to know how Source fits in with this theory.Did Source invent/make/father these other races and then they set up the experiment. Or does Source do this thru them.Do they fit in with Source as a similar way than we do,but further up the chain?Be interested to know.
Yes, they/we are all expressions of Source. From what I understand the impulse for the "experiment" came from the races collectively (as a means to gain greater clarity) but that is not to say that the inspiration for that impulse did not come from a/the Source higher up the chain of consciousness
have you read this? http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/pleyades/pleiadiansbook/pleiadiansbook15.htm#Whose%20Plan%20Is%20It%20Anyway
@ursixx - That's a very interesting link indeed. Thanks for bringing it to my attention
sting ray, not so much an experiment as a machine
@Stingray I was thinking about this and was wondering where TNDPC reside?
@Fairy Princess - TNDPC = The Ninth Dimensional Pleiadian Collective = They are a collective consciousness residing in the 9th dimension within the Pleiades star system : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleiades
@Stingray thanks do they all live in a planet as a collective consciousness?
@Fairy Princess - According to them, there are a vast numbers of different planetary civilizations in that area and this group is just a collection of similar consciousnesses. However, you won't be able to "see" any of those civilizations until you match the dimension/density they exist in. With the Pleiadians, that is the 9th dimension - we have just currently moved from 3rd to 4th. The idea of "location" is just a convenient label for us in 3D/4D. Non-physical dimensions are location-less.
I wonder how all those collective consciousnesses collected? How did everyone that is Abraham or TNDPC meet? I wonder if they started by gathering on an Eighth Dimensional website to ask and answer questions of one another about LOA, spirituality, and mind power? I wonder if we are not only possible Esther Hicks' in the making, but possible Abraham, collectively?
@Stingray, may I invite you to read (a longish:) answer I just posted on @Grace's question here: http://www.inwardquest.com/questions/53973/we-all-came-here-to-experience-deliberately-forgetting-who-we-are-so-why-do-we-put-so-much-effort-into-remembering/54004
I wrote that whole thing then came to this question:(...it's similar in thoughts to this disscussion. Curious to get your take on that:) Thanks
@Grace - "Eighth Dimensional website" ... "World Wide Web" becomes "Universe Wide Web". Interesting thought :) You may be having problems with the "coming together" idea because it implies physical location and it also implies linear time, because there must have a been a time before the "coming together" else you were already together :) These ideas fall away in higher dimensions. See Do you know which dimension Abraham is from?
@Xoomaville - I think what you are broadly saying in your answer is that we are all aspects of what is known as Source (or "God") and so in us just being who we really are, we are fulfilling our purpose as that aspect, the rest of the human-made complexity being optional. Sounds good to me :)
@Stingray, thanks for reading...we are all aspects of the Source...broadly speaking:)
@Stingray, thanks for the link. More and more and more questions. :)
I have not seen a mention of the Elohim, well worth taking a look at.
@Stingray, have you heard of H. P. Blavatsky? All the information is at this site: http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/sd/sd-hp.htm#pt1 Absolutely fascinating stuff about the Cosmic evolution. As I mentioned it in jaiannah's question, it took me 2 years to read and be able grasp some of it....even less retained...it's massive. Curious what's your take on it if you've heard of her.
@Xoomaville - Certainly I've heard of her. Theosophy is an old movement. I think I used to read stuff like this probably 20 years ago :) Nothing wrong with it at all if you feel drawn to it. For me, I reached a point quite some years back where I had become so saturated with ideas that I realized I just wanted practical, use-it-right-now knowledge - so that's where my focus lies these days. If it resonates then there's definitely something in there for you. Doesn't matter what I think :)
@Stingray, It did leave a great impression on me but was exhausting:) That's one of the issues I face now, just too many ideas if one starts looking for them. They're flying in from all sides:)) thanks
@Stingray - I have just finished reading a book called "Secrets of Planet Earth" - the wisdom of HA (an entity of higher consciousness) revealed by Tony Neate. Tony Neate has been channelling HA for over fifty years. It has a bit about Atlantis (I think you mentioned your interest in ancient civilisations elsewhere) but it goes into where the difference races come from - very interesting. It is quite a recent book 2008 - and so tackles 2012 as well.
@Catherine - Thanks, will have to check that book out
treb is filling allot of blanks on this with me now, and man, it is exiting, i can not WAIT to share it with u all. man o man, it is exiting.