Blubird, you ask the most interesting questions! I see you are still trying to connect the world of numbers to the spiritual world...perhaps, with philosophy, I can connect the dots in a rational fashion.

Let us travel into The Mind of God, where all things exist as thoughts and pure energy, as I saw in my vision here. Here, in this Mind, exists every thought ever created by any being "out there" as well as the responses from God and responses from others who resonate with us in our thinking.

Now, let us travel back, back, back into time, until we are to the point where God was alone, before man was created/evolved. God was alone, and I think He found it intolerable. The Bible says that we are created in His image, so we can safely assume that if we get lonely, so perhaps did God. There were no thoughts traveling in The Mind of God except His own. I cannot imagine His loneliness.

With a Great Thought, the Big Bang happened, and the Universe was created. This Universe manifested in the Physical World, and had to be governed by set and orderly rules, or everything would have been chaos. This is a very important point, so listen closely: here was the birth of numbers, of mathematics, geometry, physics, quantum mechanics...all the underpinnings necessary to make the Universe operate predictably and with precise order. Now, God had to wait... a long, long time, but He waited, and eventually, primitive man came along with his five-digited hands and feet. Of course, we have a decimal system, because we have five fingers on each hand. That is simple to assume. But it appears that only with the advent of homo sapiens sapiens did the world of numbers become more. than keeping track of sheep and goats.

We have to imagine the enormous curiosity of sapiens. Perhaps the first concepts of math came with te desire to build more than grass huts. We already know that the first real settlements of men were in the area of Ur, the proverbial location of the Garden of Eden. Building a wooden structure requires math. It requires an ability to make ninety-degree angles, and the ability to measure even lengths repeatedly.

But did the math arise from the mind of man? NO! It was set in place ages ago when the Universe was created, along with those predictable rules I mentioned. All that remained was for the Mind of Man to grow sophisticated enough to see the patterns that already existed in the World as God set them forth in the Physical World.

So there is your connection, Blubird. There is the seat of all numbers: in the Creation of the Physical Universe. People like Stephen Hawking are just cracking the deeper codes that underpin our universe- and it is all based on elegant numerical formulas that were put in place by God as He created our home, our Universe. As we delve more deeply into both math and quantum mechanics, we are getting ever closer to God Himself- or rather, The Mind of God. I assure you, it is quite amazing to behold.

Blessings, Jai

The Creator created everything that ever was, is now or ever will be. The first step in this creation process was the act of becoming aware it was possible to create. Awareness precedes everything else. It's the first step in thinking everything we think, feeling everything we feel, speaking everything we speak and doing everything we do.

http://www.magicalgoldendawn.com/00/articles/tree1.html

I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!"

Exodus 3:14 God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I AM has sent me to you.'"

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 8:24 I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am [the one I claim to be], you will indeed die in your sins."

John 8:28 So Jesus said, "When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am [the one I claim to be] and that I do nothing on my own but speak just what the Father has taught me.

John 10:25 Jesus answered, "I did tell you, but you do not believe. The miracles I do in my Father's name speak for me,

John 17:5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.

John 17:24 "Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and to see my glory, the glory you have given me because you loved me before the creation of the world.

Colossians 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.

http://bible.cc/john/8-58.htm

awareness is the most powerfull force you will find in the universe. experience and enjoy.

if it is symbolic then trace to the origin of the mythos,
whether it is aggregates of or written numbers of 10 or 7,
also triangles, circles and squares and their solid shapes;
your will to choose amongst any numbers or forms,
or let self be lead by popular sway, yes
what has the higher level of original forces

Hi Bluebird, As above so below and as below so above. Simply stated nothing that was not already in the mind of God could posibly ever be thought of here on earth. Everything including us come from the invisible.

Yes numbers even by their symbolism have vibrational power and specific meaning.

Numbers is the symbols of math and math is the language of the universe. Everything is math. Everything can be reduced to numbers. Physics is the application of the language to describe our world.

Base ten is the natural base for humans, as we have ten fingers and ten toes to count with.

Yes the world's built on numbers and as such they act as radionic relays so what better way to communicate than to use the language of the universe.

Here's a graph that can be used in everyday life and enables you to manifest wishes using a coded mathematical formula that's in perfect harmony with your true self and the universe

graph ref: book ""l'influence des nombres" page 59 published by servranx

Place a photo of yourself on the center of the "S" circle, place your simple written wish on the center of the "R" circle, then using a pendulum test each dial from left to right to find which number resonates, valorize the number by leaving it on the central 11 concentric circles for 10-20 minutes as shown in this example

Then put the numbered card in your pocket or next to your photo ... this method can also be used for action at any distance.

Numbers are symbols, and as such don't relate directly to the "invisible world" if by this concept you are meaning Source/God/Godhead etc. However, like everything else in existence here, they have particular meaning according to who is perceiving them. The most significant number (and which was discovered relatively late) happens to be the number zero.. since our intellectual mind finds it hard to grasp non-existence (which DOES directly relate to the "invisible world").