@Eddie This answer makes me feel very good right NOW:)

@CaronLan, yes, to act on my highest joy and excitement is always my goal. And these days when I fail to do that, I do suffer.

Some people simply need to hear a key word to get it, while others, like me, and you (?), need more details... I guess that's why I love the challenge of approaching these subjects from different angles :)

Thanks for feelin it Cory :)

True Cory.

as above as below:take example on the internet we all use it it works at the speed of light information travel very fast but you are not the internet you are you using your computer. like every one else is using their computer. when you will leave your body or your computer you are still you. when you will speak with God you are still you. if you go beyond the though you could experience it your self. yes you can come back to this world and take another body. spirit last but the flesh does not.

You are right white tiger. We say the same thing differently. But understand the idea itself. You will never be able (due to our physical limitations) truly and fully experience ourselves/all there is. You only experience your physical existence. Which means, you won’t feel what a flower feels, in the physical form you are right now. But ultimately, you have the experience within you, just your body (human being as you are) is not capable to experience all there is.

and when you 'go and speak with God' your really only return to the source of all there is.

And it is really amazing, even here and now as we talk and discuss the concept, we only really communicate our own perception of the same thing. But the underlying concept of it is the same.

And this understanding allows me to love everything and everything there is the same way. Because I know that we are the one. Should I fall head over heals in love with someone on this planet, that would be love as experienced through ego. In fact, in reality I actually love everything unconditionally.

totally agree with what you said but like i said if you can go pass the mind you can leave the body and go see God and have a chat with him. then the physical is not a limit anny more. because you are spirit. it becomes more then a concept it is experience.

the source of all there is, as a personnality it self just like you or me. i can tell you that from experience also.

and I agree with you :)

well if you agree with me then why say that everything is the same when it is not? when you see the source God the light of truth you will know the difference between you and him. then you will know that he is and you are not the same. he is the holy father and you are the holy child that try to perfect is self.

if you say that everything is everything as light and energy creating this universe and creating you in is image. this i agree with you. but he is who he is and you are who you are. i understand that this belief of yours to say everything is one helps you to not see fault in your brother and sister but at the same time it push your ego to think that you are the God the source of all. and it blind you to some of the truth. down here are we not all independent and also dependent of each other?

it is the same above. if you cannot accept this then you cannot accept and respect that every one of your brother and sister as free will and because of that you make a judgement. when the son of men came he told the truth he made no wrong yet people saw sin in him because of their ego and judgement. they put him on the cross did it help them? do you think that he did not know? yet he tried to help is brother and sister.

And I ask again white tiger - why do you assume that God is a man? Is it because your faith is based on religious scripture, which may be 50% accurate at best? If you assume that God is a man, that will surely be the reflection you see. And if your God is Buddha, then that's the reflection you'll see. OK?

well eddie i never said he was a man. like i said before when you are spirit you do not have gender. Eddie i am one that know God from experience. i said it before. that is why i understand. what is said by being born again and the pure of heart will see God. all those religion have many point in common i am starting to think that all those religion started from someone experience and he talked about it to his brother and sister here on earth and what did people do with that they made religion.

so religion is like a recall of experience from someone long ago that men have use over time to gain power over people. it still contain some truth. and some other stuff have been added around that. a little like the telephone game. over time the story is distorted well religion is similar. why would they have to reject the gospel of thomas other wise? because they do not know what it talks about. but anny way the message is out there and people can read it and understand it for them self.

so basicaly those people of understanding of those things that very fee have experience, talked and they made religion with it. and 2000 year after people are still trying to figure all of this out. so to understand those things you need someone that understand those things. God was wise in deed.

@white tiger, are you serious? Read your own comments above. Logically speaking, if you hadn't referred to god being male, then I wouldn’t have asked the question. And now you say: well eddie i never said he was a man. This raises another question: why do you say that when it’s obvious from your posts that you always refer to god as a man?

@white tiger, additionally, as you often say I’m one of the few who knows god from experience. If that is true, and you know that god has no gender, then why refer to god as male? Do you want to confuse people or are you confused? Even though your ego may view this as an attack, from my perspective, by pointing these things out to you, I’m acting upon what feels like the right thing to do.

@white tiger, and remember that there is no real separation, so in effect I’m merely acting as a mirror of your own thoughts and beliefs (as expressed by your words), for the sake of clarity. Remember that what I’m saying merely serves to point out your own contradictions, it’s not judgment. I wish you well.

well Eddie i say the father to represent the parent the creator. the one that gives life like it as always been done in this world in religion. but i said it before in spirit there is no gender you have no physical body. so you see there is no contradiction. and why would someone see it wrong that it would be a gender or another? is that not duality and judgement?

it might feel the right thing to do from your perspective. but only from a lack of memory and understanding. and are you asking this question really with out judgement since you seam to be pushing the issue when i have all ready answer your question? also i will add that men includes women. when you talk about men kind for example.

OK, white tiger, and saying the father, which implies male, IMHO is why religion and its scriptures have led mankind astray. So if you really want to teach people, why perpetuate false teachings?

well Eddie who is asking? and who is saying that it is false? i am saying that there is some truth to it. it is more the way that mankind have use it that gives the reaction from judgement that you have right now. if you want to blame someone blame cesar.

What belongs to Caesar, give to Caesar; what belongs to God, give to God; and what is mine, give it to me. who was in power when they have establish religion. was it not cesar? after they killed the martyr.

who will you blame tiberius or livia?

Loved your answer Wade.

@CalonLan You are using a computer to talk to me. Is that an improvement over nature? You probably have a light turned on and are not typing by the sun. Is that an improvement over nature? Smoke signals might be good enough for you but I prefer the internet. As long as people are on the planet we can improve it for humanity. That is why we are here to create. That is why God gave us the tools of thought and the raw material to create and constantly improve the world for all human kind, plumbing.

By this ofcourse, i'm not trying to persuade you of my point of view. I'm just providing another one to yours. We talk about the same thing, in different ways. For the sake of creating completely new experience :)

well wade as i have said there is no wrong in helping your brother and sister. so yes improvement is good has long that it is not from ego and going against their free will. the illusion is money and material stuff when you die you do not bring it with you. but when you stand before God in the light of truth what will you do?

Hi Wade. Maybe the dying person had already redefined success. IMHO everyone on this planet has already achieved the greatest success, just by being here. Between 50 million to 100 million sperm cells wanted to create life expression in this reality at the exact time and place that you wanted to. Of all of those sperm cells, you are the one sperm cell who succeeded! How’s that for success :)

Jesus said, "Let him who seeks continue seeking until he finds. When he finds, he will become troubled. When he becomes troubled, he will be astonished, and he will rule over the All." Jesus said, "This heaven will pass away, and the one above it will pass away. The dead are not alive, and the living will not die. In the days when you consumed what is dead, you made it what is alive. When you come to dwell in the light, what will you do?

On the day when you were one you became two. But when you become two, what will you do?" http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/gthlamb.html

@Eddie I am trying to see your point here, if any one of those 50 to 100 million made it I would still have been born.

@Wade, anything can be defined as positive. Here's the uncut version: Between 50 million to 100 million sperm cells wanted to create life expression in this reality at the exact time and place that you wanted to. Of all of those sperm cells, which must be extensions (ideas or thought forms) of non-physical beings, you are the one sperm cell who succeeded! How’s that for success :)