Aleister Crowley, known as the beast, states:
What does it mean? asked 09 Nov '12, 22:56 Aztiram Barry Allen ♦♦
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My only thought is that love= pure source. So when he says love is all he means that whatever difficulties we are experiencing are opportunitites for us to heal and return back to source and let go of resistance- including our environment, people in our environment, etc. Everything is a mirror to show us where our own internal resistance is and how we manufacture our own struggle to keep us from the source either consciously or unconsciously. Love is law in this sense as it governs us to uplevel our own awareness. Love under will could mean being concious of being aware- or knowing how to let go of resistance and things that dont serve us- and being mindful of this process, willing our light to shine even though everything in us wants to "play small"- we must push through fear in that sense? Those are my reflections at least answered 21 Nov '12, 00:42 Kanda Thank you so much very helpful
(27 Dec '12, 08:37)
Aztiram
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@Kanda- for me "love under will" means that here on earth we must all abide to the laws of nature
(27 Dec '12, 10:57)
blubird two
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My personal law is... "If and whenever something can go right, it will. And it will usually turn out better than ever expected." I can't speak much for Crowly but if we use Jesus example he told us if we have love then the 600 and some laws will be obeyed automatically. With love in our hearts we do not want to steal from another. We do not want to murder another. We do not want to take or keep what is not ours. We can not hate or bare false witness against another if we have love in our actions and hearts. Now knowing Crowly it probably had something to do with gemetry and the kabballah. answered 27 Dec '12, 21:53 Wade Casaldi 1
@Wade - the 631 Laws are the Shema in Deuteronomy , which every Jewish man is supposed to repeat on a daily basis. You and I agree with Jesus. One of the reasons He came was to get us away from meaningless ritual and back to basics. Jesus said "Love is all you need." God is Love.
(26 May '13, 08:31)
Dollar Bill
Yes all the rewards for keeping all the laws are ours automatically... Thank you Jesus! :-)
(28 May '13, 21:18)
Wade Casaldi
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In Crowley's writing, "Will" was always capitalized signifying Divine Will. Love is the Law, Love under (Divine, God, Source) Will." "Love" was considered a magnetic attracting force. So use your LOA, under Will to have a good life! This is the Law. EDITED Crowley was a brilliant occultist in the early 1900s. Died in 1947. In the late 1960s I read everything I could find, written by or about him. Brilliant, but twisted in so many ways. With his ability to understand metaphysics he joined and quickly rose through the ranks of many of the "secret" organizations. Then he published all their "secrets" in his latest books! Did not make him any friends! He was deeply offended by most of these "Secret Organizations" in that he felt they and the Church were lost in meaningless rituals. So he went out of his way to point out these defects. He coined the term "Magick" to differentiate from stage "magicians. His focus was on what he called "The Great Work". The Knowledge and Conversation of the Holy Guardian Angel" aka the K&C of the HGA. He used every means at his considerable disposal to do this. Drugs, sex (hetro and homosexuality), sacrifice. He often wrote in drug-induced state. This introduced some uneveness! He strongly believed in a "Path" a destiny that a man or woman was here to find and follow. Once you were on that Path, you were invulnerable, a king in his language. However if you were NOT on your Path, you did not matter. He said, "Strike a man! If he is a King, he will not feel it. If he is not a king, it doesn't matter" (if a man can be hurt, it is only because HE is not on his Path.) His work will strike you, lead you down Paths where you can get lost. Where you can get hurt. He died lonely and unfulfilled. He created a realty of which I only ever wanted to touch the surface. The Beast 666? Nah. Don't think so. Think about this carefully if you have the temerity to study this brilliant, but demented occultist! He had a deadly sense of humor and his disciples suffered mightily. answered 26 May '13, 04:09 Dollar Bill 1
Good answer Bill - can't think of anything better than Love, Laughter & Source. “The common defect of all mystical systems previous to that of the Aeon whose Law is Thelema is that there has been no place for Laughter" ~ Aleister Crowley For anyone who is not familiar with Aeon.. Aeon - (Gnosticism) a divine power or nature emanating from the Supreme Being and playing various roles in the operation of the universe
(26 May '13, 04:24)
ele
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. . . as for your edit Bill, I follow no one & like you, have read about Crowley & like you, many yrs ago. I appreciate his brilliance not his madness... I assumed quotes such as this one would not resonate with you. "If one were to take the bible seriously one would go mad. But to take the bible seriously, one must be already mad."
(26 May '13, 18:49)
ele
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My dear @ele, all people of genius are mad. People of genius take the Bible seriously.
(27 May '13, 20:39)
Dollar Bill
Thanks for the laugh.. Love your response. ... and those are 2 of the reasons I appreciate you - your humor & your genius Bill .. ... and I have to agree, I find Madness far more interesting...
(27 May '13, 22:47)
ele
Bill, I left off my quote because I did not want to be misunderstood. "Imperfection is beauty, madness is genius and it's better to be absolutely ridiculous than absolutely boring"
(28 May '13, 00:38)
ele
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It's easy to understand if you read this quote by Crowley first.
To me it means do what you love.. (Love, and do what thou wilt) Aleister Crowley appeared on the cover of the Beatles' album - "Sgt Peppers Lonely Heart Club Band". Crowley is the 2nd person in the top row. When John Lennon was asked why Aleister was on the cover - he said:
Lennon was paraphrasing Crowley's quote "Do what thou wilt". Thelema is the religion founder by Aliester Crowley & Thelma is Greek for "will" & teaches that we each must discover our individual inmost nature, described as the "True Will". Follow ursixx 's link for definition of "True Will" Like the Beatles said "All you need is Love" answered 26 May '13, 02:12 ele |
Excuse me ! Are the most of you who answered, blind ? The man was a notorious anti-Christ and you "analyze" the words...the "will" is not the divine will...it is the will..as in ego...and who has the biggest ego?...C'mon... As far as i understand, in that picture, everybody was a mason, a puppet of masonery or an experiment of masonery (social experiment a.k.a. Beatles..at least in the beginning) Love is the law..this comprehends all...no need for any completion...unless your "will" needs to do it :) answered 28 May '13, 17:57 holla 1
You have a right to believe what ever you wish. AC was not the anti-Christ anymore than you or I. I prefer to dwell on the man's positive attributes which were many & like with everything else in life including what you read on IQ - take what you like or what resonates with you & leave the rest. That's what I do. Keep in mind, there is quite a bit of negative propaganda on the internet in regards to AC.
(29 May '13, 02:34)
ele
@ele thanks... For clearing that up...I was kinda confused! I do like some of AC views... And I agree with you on "take what you like or what resonates with you & leave the rest. Thanks
(29 May '13, 02:41)
Aztiram
@Aztiram Thank you. I'm NOT trying to glorify AC & I'm not a follower. He certainly had his demons. Most of what I've read on the internet in regards to him is negative propaganda & is not based on fact.
(29 May '13, 03:01)
ele
@ele Of course you are free to believe whatever you wish..yes, he was against Christ..but i prefer to believe whatever is true..there is no propaganda..simply the truth comes out in the open...plus this site is about inner quest..like what is true and deserves our attention for our well-being..
(29 May '13, 03:03)
holla
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read this too http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Will
Thanks so much for the link!
@ursixx- yes great link thanks; "Will does not spring from conscious intent but from the interplay between the deepest Self and the entire Universe ... just as a stream flows downhill, with neither resistance nor lust of result" ... love it :)
@Aztiram Funny - I saw this question when it was posted. Just before you asked this question I was reading one of Dollar Bill's answers & comments & thought of Crowley. Now after all this time, I reply & I'm of thinking of Bill & he appears. Don't tell DB this; but I still haven't figured out his comment to me. lol!
@ele - just slowly read
B I @ele @ele,
and you can see the basis of where we connect.
ha-ha Bill! The English language is full of homographs. You have a point, I should 'view' your other comment again - haven't looked at it since this question was posted.