Pre-2008 I may have reacted to David Icke like these two interviewers did.

One thing I always seem to notice about people when their dominant core beliefs get shaken up in a public setting, is that they go into "automatic joking herd mentality phase."

Automatic joking herd mentality phase is when you hear something so far off the wall, you don't want to look stupid (in this case on national television) if you don't get the funny punchlines in like the guy tries to do every few minutes which I find amusing yet very interesting.

It's almost as if you stray too far away from the heard, the Shepard in charge will come along and paint your wool black and banish you from future heard activities. So you have to fit in and go along with the program by not being open to new possibilities.

Being open minded and listening to new possibilities doesn't mean you have to accept them as your new reality. It just means to sit and listen without trying to deflect and go into debate mode like your on the defensive. We seem to do that a lot in this world from my perspective.

I personally have a mixed opinion about David Icke but he no longer strikes fear in me like he did when I discovered him and others in the "great conspiracy theory phase of early 2010."

I loved him back in that phase for showing me "the truth" about what's going on in the world but it was a far more fearful, angry, and sad vibration at that time.

Then I got into heavy into Abraham/Bashar and others and officially hated him (but still not as much as the dreaded Alex Jones who I loved for about 23 minutes...not hard to figure him out:)

Finally, I got into a phase within the past year or so where I all of a sudden, seemingly at once, made peace with things like conspiracy theories and the like and felt totally neutral about the subject/s.

I realized that I truly do create my own reality and I don't have to give away my power unless I focus on the things that I don't prefer and feel negative emotion while doing so.

I even watched a whole David Icke seminar on youtube in a completely neutral way and I rarely if ever watch anything like that anymore. It felt good to not be triggered emotionally for the first time by looking at all of this as a game being played with the illusion of "good guys" and "bad guys."

I just can't seem to figure out if David Icke is the type of person that sprinkles enough positive - good feeling information with the negative - bad feeling information to get a wider audience and seem more legitimate.

I love what he says about reality creation in general but sometimes he contradicts himself by bringing up certain subjects about control, power, greed, and fear. I just don't know if he is truly trying to help people, make people fearful, or this is just something he genuinely loves to do and you get what you get.

I came across a Bashar video recently that made me really get into thought about this subject and people like David Icke.

Bashar - Illuminati not as much power

The people that are attempting to be whistle-blowers are actually their greatest advertisers.

I find a lot of my own truth in that statement. At the same time I feel pretty neutral about Mr. Icke. I'm not really into conspiracy theory like I used to be, but on occasion I can watch or listen to what he has to say in a fun and playful game type of way without bringing the baggage of negative and fearful emotions along for the ride.

One thing is for sure, he definitely has my curiosity in more ways than one.

Yes there's certainly a place for David Icke here on IQ, that is if he's not here already under a pseudonym :) ... having said that, if we look at what wiki says about him there're some things he proclaims that even here on this site plenty of people would find hard to swallow such as "at the heart of his theories lies the idea that a secret group of reptilian humanoids called the babylonian brotherhood controls humanity, and that many prominent figures are reptilian" ... it's a pity because the basis of what he says is in perfect alignment with a lot of what is discussed here on IQ.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke

Thanks Stingray, enjoyed this. Yes he is using a more forceful approach to wake people up. The more subtle approach must work better though when you have celebrities introducing you:)

http://youtu.be/VeuoC6Gm-JY

This is a refreshing vignette of David Icke; in stark contrast to his "lizard people from the Draco constellation" conspiracy theories, he sounded quite lucid here.

There's nothing here that we haven't heard before, whether in the Matrix movies, the Bible, or even Star Wars. The idea that solid objects are mostly empty space, that our experience of the physical world is based on electrical signals in our brain, that there is some overseer that controls everything (or who is at least responsible for the projection), that higher beings are controlling our destiny (the Bible talks about spiritual wars, and how we are pawns in these spiritual wars), that we give up our power to others.

What he didn't mention, I believe, is that we chose this physical life in order to experience the sense of self and the contrast that comes with it. Abraham (Hicks) mentioned one time that, while the spiritual beings that inhabit the upper dimensions have tremendous freedom, what they don't have is the degree of focus that incarnated life provides, and the joy of discovery that comes with that.

I can remember David Icke when he was a sports commentator. Ive always liked him, i agree with some of what he says.

But i think some of his more unusual beliefs deflect from some of the common sense stuff he teaches. He seems to run of at a tangent at times and there doesnt seem to be any " theme" to what hes trying to say.

When a metaphysical teacher tells me my countrys royal family are really lizard type aliens, and the moon that shine down on my home at night is hollow with a big engine inside it.....well , i do tend to think hes talking ########!

I wonder if David "REALLY" does believe some of the stuff he says he believes.

Perhaps ill never know.

Hes a colourful ,charming and very funny man.

Im glad i share this reality with people like him.

Hes the spice in lifes curry.

In this video, it is clear that his reality is based on fear of something/someone that is controlling humanity, aka Illuminati. He emphasize though that we have the power to liberate ourselves. I found his discussion so different compared here in IQ. As far as what I found here and the outgoing links, our enlightenment is based in love and joy without magnifying any fear to anything and anyone.

It is my first time to hear about Mr. Icke so I may sound uninformed here but that is all I got for now.

I always will love David; even though I think he should move on to the next phase, perhaps his "wakey wakey" is needed, still. And although I did very much enjoy Bashar's comment and it resonates with me about people like David being the biggest advertisers, I think the bigger picture is needed here. David is talking about the darker versions of the Earth, in the interest of helping those who are ready to wake up and choose. There are unlimited versions from which we constantly choose, and I for one am most interested in finding a way to one which I prefer at this moment. If you are not familiar with David's work, this video is not a good introduction, as he was cut off just as he was about to say the key point: if the many simply wake up and walk away from the few who are in "power", the world will change instantly. David means well, I feel sure of that. Thanks for posting this video, I enjoyed it. And although the male interviewer kept interrupting, I felt that the woman was actually thinking about what David was saying. You should see some other interviews, either humour as mentioned above or a "deer in the headlights" expression. With heart, MHG