the worst thing is that we all have this knowlege inside of us, unstaed of paying alot of money to buy the things we can get from inside , use that energy to connect to yourself! the inner self is ALWAYS the best personal teacher. NO ONE knows more about you than you !!! meditation is a great tool!

comment to montys above on the origonal question (thats what has always killed me,, why put $ sighn on spirituality? if there is somthing worth sharring for the betterment of your fellow man, why do others charge? i understand some have to do it if they want to maintain their lifestyle and want to put 100% of their efforts into it bet then you should make it accesible to all, unstaed of charging $35.99 for the book charge $10 or somthing like that, even that is rediculiuos in my opinion but like i said, to each their own! )

love n light,

rob

Do you agree that consciousness is contained within All That Is because All That Is comes from consciousness? And that due to the Universal vibrational law of attraction, there are no accidents or mistakes because everything That Is came forth due to vibrational requests?

If so, then you see that Dr. Joe Vitale’s work, presented and marketed in the way he does, already, automatically, contains those people (the market) who need or want it presented in that way in order for it to help or serve them in some way.

Is the law of creation the next step?

My simple answer is yes, for Dr. Joe’s followers/students the law of creation is the next step.

Now to continue the debate...

Years ago I was attracted to Dr. Joe’s methods and work and three of his products actually helped me a lot. I spent US$30, US$40 and US$75 and I consider that to be good value for what I learned. However, after some time I became bored with his non-stop sales barrage, so I removed myself from his list, marking the end of my interest in Dr. Joe Vitale’s teachings.

One of the things I learned from him is there’s no difference between attracting US$1 or US$1,000,000; the only difference is in our personal belief that we can or cannot have that money. Sure, Dr. Joe is all about money and material things, but that must be due to the vibrational requests from so many people wanting those things, right? And money is a great entry point into understanding the ideas of vibrational attraction because most people want more money.

Perhaps more importantly for me, Dr. Joe introduced Neville Goddard, around the same time as I discovered Abraham. Neville taught me as much about reality creation as Abraham, but in a completely different way. He was a third density being and taught while he was still in physicality, through examples of his own life. And he explained relevant things from the bible that have been misinterpreted or concealed in ways which has rendered them ineffective.

Thus, although I’m no longer attracted to Dr. Joes work; it’d be hypercritical of me to run him or his methods down. I simply choose to no longer pay attention to his work.

In our current state of evolution we use money as a token of value in exchange for services rendered. As long as we’re still in this paradigm, everyone needs money. Therefore, doesn’t it make sense to use the laws to get yourself into a financial position, free of worry and stress in order that you can spend your time helping others, if that’s your MO?

That’s my goal anyway and I will have products for sale that will help me to achieve that goal. And I’m using the laws every day of my life in order to prove to myself how the laws work. If we are not able to use the laws, that we want to share with others, to attract money and abundance into our own lives, do we really have anything to share?

When Dr. Joe wants to attract a new car, he focuses on the end result, feels good about it and because he has no resistance to owning that car, the money needed to buy it just finds its way to him. That’s how the laws work and what he teaches.

Yes, these laws have always existed and no money is needed in order to utilize them, but until we become aware of them we reside in ignorance of them. I’m glad that I stepped up and paid for people’s time and efforts in bringing those subjects to my attention, because now I’m happy and feel good for 95% of the time. Priceless!

Dr. Vitale's message is so heavy on the SELLING, SELLING, SELLING you something that it just doesn't resonate with me at all. He comes off more as a materialistic salesman to me, than a spiritual person. Of course, this is just my opinion. But you are right, Wade, "The Law of Creation" idea has already existed here on IQ and there is plenty of proof of that! Just look at all of the posts which mention "creation" or "manifestation", going back quite a ways.

Old as the hills this one Wade.And i know you know this.

Poor old Jesus had no Jo Vitale,no computer,no web sites,no modern catch phrases.

How the hell did He manage to

1.Manifest instantly.

2.Create out of thin air.

3.Defy the very laws of nature.

Jo Vitales flogging stuff for money,Christ gave His knowledge away for free.

Theres a very simple way of manifesting or creating.

Esther would explain it as matching the vibrational frequency of the thing asked for.

Jesus would say believe youve already received it.

For me thats it......end of story. Dress it up in any language you want,market it any way you want.It makes no odds.

Jesus said simply that according to your faith so be it unto you.

Hicks says that according to your dominant vibrational offering so be it unto you.

Creation or attraction,attraction or creation. In the end the results are the same.And lets face it thats the inportant bit.If youve attracted something OR created it you still get it.Sure you may want something that exists already but not in your ownership.But frankly if it does exist in the now ( and by this i mean physically) if it isnt yours and the it is then its been created in your personal experience anyway.

Either way you didnt have it physically.now you do.

And the method of receiving hasnt changed for the last 14 billion years,and God alone knows maybe even before that.

Same mechanics/laws,different route,same end result.

Im not sure what Vitales charging for this but i bet you could source all this from past posts on IQ ,and from people who could put it a far better than i can.

Catch up Jo!

Monty

ps Im not against Jo,im sure hes a nice chap....and im glad hes excited..we all need a bit if that!

I like Joe.I have never bought anything from him. I remember him from The Secret.I have seen him in a few vids on YouTube.
But complaining about him wanting money is a limiting belief.
The man is making a living selling a service that he does well.It seems he likes what he is doing
" following his joy "I'm sure he has a staff to pay , he has multiple websistes(not free to administrate or develop)and markets a number of books and dvds and sevices.On one of his website he states clearly that he is a marketing person.
And if you don't want to pay don't.He has over 100 videos in his YouTube channel not to mention he is seen on many others there . As you said he also free information on his websites.
We live in a money driven society their are not many free lunches and if it is a free lunch that just means someone else is picking up the tab and that is great too. Isn't just as much if not more to invite a friend to lunch as it is to be invited?
Wade If you want it buy it! Don't limit yourself. If it was a bad purchase you have learned a lesson if it was a good purchase you have learned a lesson.Win-win!
peace

I don't think giving things away for free is supportive or counter productive to one's spiritual path.

It is the meaning that is associated with the action.

If one chooses to make a living by sharing what they know, their intent and sincerity will automatically form the basis of their reflected reality.

So everything balances out anyway.

Our difficulty in accepting the apparent exploitation of "sacred knowledge" may have more to with our own self judgment; "I should be making a living with this stuff, after all I know just as much, or even more than this guy".

when you put something in the mind you are creating and giving it power! it start a belief! that is why someone needs to be zen in life to see things as they are! and put is power to good use!