As I peruse the questions on IQ, I cannot help but notice a theme about truth. It seems as if there are many truths and I also am, or maybe was, a subscriber to such ideas. Can there be more than one truth about any given topic? Let's say God; That always comes up as "Well you believe what you believe and I believe what I want", right? We are both right!? (won't want to offend any one) But is this realistic? Isn't there only one truth? Can we both be right? Well, yes...to both. One does not need to be true for the other to be false. How? Let's say there is a super gigantic multi-colored ball hanging in the sky, and we only see one part of it because it is so big. All we see is the yellow part. Now it is a factual opinion that this ball is yellow. It is "A" truth. But it is not "THE" truth. THE TRUTH is that it is a multi-colored ball. This is exactly what we do all of the time. Here and other venues. Knowing this, is it safe to say that there is only one universal truth and the rest is our factual opinions? And also can we say that we will never know THE TRUTH? asked 17 May '11, 04:05 you
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Thank you, thank you, thank you for posting this... I'm super excited right now because something just clicked for me and I don't think I'll even be able to explain it. Rather than use the words factual opinion, I think I'd substitute that for individual perception. And you're right to a degree that if we only see the yellow section of the ball that our truth would be that it's yellow... however, someone may be colour blind and call that yellow something else so to them yellow is not the truth, so it really is individual perception. As my 7 yr old said to me this morning... "Mom you're not me, so you don't know". We each navigate this physical reality using our own "map of reality" ( I'm borrowing that phrase from Bill Harris) that we've created based on our own interpretation of the environment we grew up in. Our truths are then always relative to those interpretations or that map of reality but can also be subject to change when we make a decision to question our own map and realize that there is more than one route to navigate this journey by and so our internal map begins to change and our external model of the world begins to change accordingly. The moment we tag on anything to We Are or I Am we lose connection to the only Absolute Truth because we no longer reside in just that state of Being which is the only Absolute Truth... We Are. I think this is what was meant by those famous words in Moses' vision... I Am that I Am. The tag we place after I Am is always subject to individual perception and disconnects us from that pure state of Being. I'm not sure I've even explained very well what I'm trying to convey in this last paragraph... hopefully somebody gets something out of it :) So you're right... we can never know The Truth, we can only Be It.
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answered 17 May '11, 13:47 Michaela "Mom you're not me, so you don't know".~priceless. I agree we can never now THE TRUTH but we are it....nice :))
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the ONLY thing that makes a truth is perception, ,i see what you say BUT lets look at ur example. i see god as this---- "God is more than the sum of all the probable systems of reality he has created ,and yet he is within each one of these, without exeption. He is therefore within each man and women , he is also within each spider, shadow and frog, and this is what man does not like to admit. God can only be experianced, and you experience him whether or not u reailize it through your own existance. In the most inexapable truth, he is not human in ur tems at all, nor in ur terms is he a personality. Your ideas of personality are too limited to contain the facitts of his multideminsonal existance,," ................Seth Speks, The Eternal Validity of the Soul...... Channeled by Jane Robberts Recorded by Robbert Butts Material by Seth now. i see it like this and a christian might see it as a one person being that made everything. But if my definition is true, and so is theres ,is it only one. NO , if i am correct than their deffinition is wrong? wel if you PERCIEVE it tio be yes, but if you see that if they are "right" than one god makes all . well wouldnt that mean that everything he made is INCLUDED in the ides of what i have percieved and vice versa? do u see what i am getting at. now i understyand that is a VERY vauge example but honestly we can do that with ANY thing !!! I mean when you say "This is exactly what we do all of the time. Here and other venues. Knowing this, is it safe to say that there is only one universal truth and the rest is our factual opinions? And also can we say that we will never know THE TRUTH?" what i think is that we all make our own facts and thats HOW we see the truths. as for the ball example i have another isue. that ball is ONLY multi colered BECAUSE we can only percieve colors in a certian way and BECAUSE of the star we have is very diffrent in teh light it outputs. I tell you this, if i take that ball into a room with no loght ,,, well IT BECOMES BLACK,, then THAT si the truth ,,,right?? you need to see taht they are so many varibals and so many diffrent perceptions (and even ways TO percieve) that the "TRUTH" HAS TO BE made from prsonal perceptions. because in facty we ALL create our OWN reality, therefor we only have OUR truths. so i guess both perspectives are right. There IS only one truth , MY TRUTH, at least for ME. i hope i helped. love n light, rob
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answered 19 May '11, 22:48 TReb Bor yit-NE I disagree. But thank you for your insight.
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Is perception total truth or individual truth?
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i will say it is an individual truth,, u r right about that ,, BUT, if each of us create our own existance than what other reality and "truths " do we need to abide by? i am sure of one thing, i am a channeler as i am sur u know,, when i channeled this higher entity, "part of the onnes"(or oneness itsel) i never fealt any judging OR any trutrh ,, it was ALL just ok,, i realy cant explain but i hope this maeks sense?? love n light
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it would seem that there is actually one truth, yet many theodocies.
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answered 17 May '11, 11:39 fred Not sure if THE TRUTH will ever be 'found'
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michael, it is there for each of us and for all of us
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If however, we all lived under that multicolored ball, all seeing the "yellow" part, but some people called the same yellow part, "purple" would they be wrong? Everybody in their group agrees that it is purple (and they have a different word for what other people call purple).
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answered 17 May '11, 13:08 Fairy Princess Yes they would be wrong. Facts have ben determined in this case. Yellow is Yellow and purple is not yellow regardless of what someone believes or calls it, it is still yellow. I am glad you brought up this point. These alternate truths are wrong. And just cause someone call it something does not make it true.
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Ok, so what if they said that the ball was multicolored, but that they could only see the purple part. They even knew that it is a three colored ball with purple showing and the rest of the colors were in an unkown pattern. Unknown, because they could not see them, but they knew there were three colors and the one showing is purple.
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like i have said a fee time there is many truth in the absolute truth! each one see the truth at is level! the question is more can you accept the truth of other and integrate it with what you know to be true! if every one here saw only one part of the ballon and one saw all of it!could we all recreate the image with out fighting or getting stuck in belief or concept!
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